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Can you collect unemployment benefits if you're fired for not being vaccinated?

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TLDR: It's treated like a driver's license.

If it's listed in the job requirements, then it's up to the applicant to prepare by getting vaccinated. If it's not listed as a requirement, then someone asking you to do it is not legally binding.

Not hiring someone vs firing someone because the requirements are changed when the person is already employed, are different things.

Whether it's not hiring because now they need to be vaccinated, or firing because they refuse to be vaccinated, I think this is all understandable in the face of a global pandemic. Situations change and we too, must adapt.

My mum was able to find a job many decades back with no knowledge of how to use Microsoft. With time, and as the company grew with it, of course staff need to be more proficient with IT and tech. They then offered upgrading skills/courses for current employees, and made this a requirement for their new hires. Supposing the employees didn't want to take the upgrading courses, can they really complain if they are then fired for not having the right skills to do their job? I should think no.

This is morally wrong on so many levels. When people can't decide what goes into their own bodies, they are just farm animals to big pharma.

Don't you think this is a bit of an exceptional circumstance? There is no slippery slope here where "big pharma" can do it for every vaccine.

We are where we are because people have refused to get vaccinated. Given the circumstances, I'm completely okay with pressuring people to do so by those means.

Be a good sheep wear your mask ... get vaccinated then you don't have to wear your mask ... oh wait wear your mask if your vaccinated or not... oh wait those who are vaccinated are getting Covid (singer from Slipknot ... Melissa Joan Hart) ... oh wait now every 8 months your going to need a booster shot.

The reality is we are learning as we go here so it's best to follow what Simon says for the sake of society.

It's understandable and acceptable in certain industries. If you are working in a care home full of vulnerable old/sick people and have decided that you will not take the vaccine for your own reasons, you can't really blame your superiors for firing you because there's a lot more at stake/to consider.

People choose whether to vaccinate and businesses choose whether to employee the unvaccinated. What is so wrong about that?

20 years ago my college wouldn't let me matriculate without a meningitis vaccine. So I weighed my choices and got vaccinated. Meanwhile, these people weigh the same choice and quit their jobs. Why would this upset anyone?

Sounds like capitalism to me. Isn't this half of what the holdouts say they want? Businesses should be able to decide things for themselves, same as people? Don't force businesses to work with those that go against their personal feelings on things, like marriage and Kwanzaa?

I wish people could understand that they don't get it both ways. Being internally consistent is important to not be a hypocrite AND to being able to effectively argue a position.

This isn't about morality. It's about saving lives and people who push this angle are causing people to die.

Its about binding everyday life with government compliance. Everyone will figure this out sooner or later.

People who don’t want to die can get vaccinated if they think it will help. Or isolate. Some of us have natural immunity and don’t need a “vaccine” subscription.

This is ok'ish and legal during national medical emergencies. There are specific laws to deal with such temporarily. It's not something to normalize, but there are more than one argument to weigh here. How do you consider other arguments and perspectives?

I agree that everyone should get vaccinated and wear masks, it’s common sense.

That said, I’m always skeptical about “temporary” measures when it comes to government (ex. US Patriot Act).

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