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Or BPC 157.

Has anyone here used it? Or TB-500?

I have a tendon/pulley injury that doesn't seem to want to heal and I've been researching it. At least one relevant study.

There is one Dr. in my area (a gyno of all things) that has a website promoting his practice using it. So has at least a sheen of professionalism.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21030672/

Climber? I've had three pulley injuries and returned to sport. What, specifically, have you been doing to rehab it?

yup!! hang boarding, micro needling, some finger/arm exercises from PT.

i climbed seriously as a kid until like 22 ish. then didn't for 7 ish years. it's now close to 2 years back (sep 24). I think that's the main issue, my skill/strength is higher than my fingers. Though I'm still decently strong just have pain/days I can't do much and fingers are weak compared to what I used to have.

what about you?

I've been thinking of seeing if this local Dr. has any ideas, it sounds like you have to get the peptides injected near the injury which freaks me out. Don't mess with my fingers!

I did it and it worked wonders for my shoulder injury. Not giving you medical advice, but it's easy and not expensive so I would go for it if i were you.

And subcutaneous injections are so easy you dont even feel them, I pin daily every morning with my coffee and it takes me 20 seconds using a super-slim insulin needle.

A little off topic, but what is your goal with the micro needling? I thought that was a purely cosmetic procedure for things like acne scars, but now I'm wondering if I missed something.

It might not be the correct term, but my PT uses tiny needles and places them into my arm tendons (higher up). And then turns on electricity between the needles.

I know a lot of serious athletes swear by it and I definitely feel the effects.

It's hard to describe the sensation it doesn't hurt too much (though tapping into tight areas does hurt a bit). You can feel the change in how the tendon/whatever passes current when connected.

Like at first when really tight the finger doesn't really twitch but after a bit when it releases it goes wild.

Afterwards I'm weak for the afternoon and then feel looser after. I might equate it to an intenseness massage or Myofascial release treatment but highly specific for my inside the arm tendons.

I recommend it, but I would think only with an actual Doctorate PT.

i am not a climber but I had a pulley injury that didn't really go away until I got cortisone to kill the inflammation it was causing. But repeated cortisone shots is supposed to be bad for connective tissue.

That's what my actual Dr hand surgeon said. I'm getting an MRI in a few weeks, very very unlikely i have a full tear but I want to see if we can find something 'medium serious' that explains why I can't improve much with a year of PT.

well i can tell you mine healed after cortisone and I managed to not need surgery. But no matter how much PT/exercise/stretching I did up until the cortisone, nothing helped.

Within a few months of cortisone it felt great and didn't have mobility issues (I had scar tissue buildup that was cuasing trigger finger too) and now a year and a bit later its 100% functional with no pain and full mobility/range.

worth a try.

I have tried both, for a nagging rugby-induced shoulder injury.

Nothing. Nada. No perceptible difference. I am…passingly acquainted…with injectable performance-enhancing drugs, and TB-500 and BPC-157 just did nothing for me.

Nor did they for a good friend. Now, that is a tiny sample size, and largely meaningless. (Did our supplier actually manage to get ahold of or synthesize a complex long-chain peptide? Shrug!) But there’s my 2 cents.

Yes the supply is my #1 concern / question. It doesn't seem like there is any downside risk so long as it's really the actual not contaminated peptides.

I wonder if either of these would work for a nagging tennis elbow? I'm 50 and I've tried pin-firing and it doesn't seem to have cleared it up.

BPC/TB worked great on my BJJ-induced golfer's elbow. I'd recommend giving it a shot!

I used both BPC-157 and TB-500 for a grade 4 SLAP tear. There are different surgeries used for SLAP tears, and I could not find a surgeon that would do the surgery I wanted (in the UK). I can't remember the exact details, but one is more risky and has a higher chance of returning to pre-surgery performance (normally athletes would take this option). The other is less risky but screws up your performance (general population usually get this option). I could only get surgeons to agree to the latter in the UK.

Anyway, I went and injected both the peptides for 15 weeks, and after over a year of having a completely messed up shoulder, it fixed it well enough that I can surf.

I was going to transfer to a US office to get the surgery done, but covid fucked up my transfer. I'll probably never compete in a powerlifting event again, but I can surf and that's good enough for me.

I injected 0.25mg of BPC-157 twice a day(near the shoulder) and 3mg of TB-500 every 3.5 days (into belly).

Disclaimer: not a doctor, just my experience. I bought them off random websites which in hindsight was insane. I was depressed and desperate. If you can get it from a real doctor/clinic, it would obviously be much better.

I also have a SLAP tear and would love to use BPC or something else to fix it, as I'm not going to have surgery. However, injecting a grey market research chemical I bought off the Internet into my body is just way, way outside my risk tolerance. I could I guess imagine imbibing a pill or powder..... direct injection when you don't really know what it is, it's not from a regulated supplier- just seems nuts to me, no offense

Haha, no offence taken. I 100% agree with you.

I too have used BPC/TB for fixing nagging injuries and it works great.

One thing to note -- you don't need to inject BPC at the site of the injury. Subcutaneous anywhere on the body works just as well. Your body will direct the peptides to the fibroblast (healing) areas where it is needed.

What caused the SLAP tear?

Fell pretty hard while snowboarding.

i'm happy for you! yes serious athletes have different goals there are for sure athlete specific surgeons in the US. Check out the Steadman Clinic if you haven't already.

Not sure if sourcing is illegal on HN. If you have any suggestions I can't tell what is legitimate online or not. or if this is not good I have an email in my profile if you are willing to share

I used it once after I injured my shoulder doing straddle planches. I'm not sure exactly what was injured but it basically cured my shoulder overnight.

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