Stop the tin-foil hat nonsense. Joe Rogan is not an expert. He refused the vaccine. There is no one out to get you. Hundreds of anti-vax, pro-horse-dewormer patients are dying due to COVID.
However, setting that aside, please bear with me here, he does sometimes have very intelligent and well informed people on his show. I think that is the case with this particular episode. It would behoove you or anyone to keep an open mind.