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Hi, one of the revolt developers here, we wanted something contained and selfhosted instead of something federated, see https://developers.revolt.chat/faq/federation on why we dont plan on adding federation

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Suggestion: lift yourself up without tearing others down. Remove the comments at the end about Matrix leaving a sour taste in your mouth and being buggy: the reasons on this link are sound, engage your audience with all positive energy.

well said, that's a good rule for life in general

Can't hate you for being opinionated, and I appreciate that you drew a line somewhere.

However, saying that 'nobody actually wants it' is at the very least a little disingenuous. Transitioning to self-hosted and distributed systems is totally the way to go, but we're inevitably going to run into a systems problem. IRC struggled to reach the mainstream because of how fractured it was, and if you don't do anything to address that you're liable to run into the same issue again.

You aren't forced to federate with Matrix. It's as self-contained as you want/require it to be.

> From personal experience, I’ve generally found federated protocols to not be suitable for real time communication, Matrix is incredibly buggy at times and it’s left a sour taste in my mouth.

Not sure this is a good reason for not adding it, Element is not buggy at all.

I run into Element bugs all the time. It's not the worst, but "not buggy at all" is not my experience.

I agree is not a black and white experience.

fwiw we are on a bit of a bug quest currently, so please file bugs as you see them and they will get rapidly triaged & wrangled and maybe even fixed.

Will do!

Will do thanks!.

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