Hours may correlate somewhat with output, but it's diminishing returns.
We should optimise for productivity + life outside of work instead
I'm glad the "I work XX hours per week" bench is slowly dying out - fools gold.
We should optimise for productivity + life outside of work instead
I'm glad the "I work XX hours per week" bench is slowly dying out - fools gold.
I think we should stop caring about how others spend their time.
The problem arises, however, when overworking (or bragging about overworking) becomes part of the culture within a company
> "The sleep deprivation, the treatment by senior bankers, the mental and physical stress… I've been through foster care and this is arguably worse," one respondent said in the survey, which has been seen by the BBC.
Seems like a lot more than just a culture of work going on there.
Working long hours and bragging about overtime is not uncommon in a lot of blue collar work too (maybe moreso). People can earn really good money working a lot of overtime, and it's great they can choose to do that. If a lot of people have the same mindset or it turns a bit competitive, there is nothing inherently wrong with that either. It is not at all the same thing as people being threatened by management or bullied by coworkers for refusing unreasonable working conditions.
Says who? If you want to work 40 hours a week, have your weekends off, and relax more, that's great. You are optimizing for more time off than me as you value it more than I do; cool. However, if I want to work more than 40 hours a week and my total output ends up being higher than yours then I should absolutely be rewarded by my company for it. All things being equal, I should promote faster; I should get better raises; etc. You are optimizing for one thing, I am optimizing for another, and that should be fine.
personally i don't mind if you prefer to work more hours, but i'll be watching your performance. if it doesn't scale with the number of hours you put in then you'll have to cut down. also if i get any complaints from anyone else in the team. i can't have your performance demoralizing everyone else, because in the end it is the performance of the whole team that matters. i also won't be giving you extra opportunities for promotion or raises, because that would be unfair to others who can't work as much as you. again, doing so would be demoralizing for everyone else.
case in point, there is a company where anyone working more than 20 hours a week got reduced pay for those extra hours.
what company and in what country? that's a compelling idea, provided the pay is decent enough that one would only need to work 20hrs a week.
they were featured on hackernews early this year: