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Australia is shaping up to be the villain of COP26 climate talks

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Australia has the capital and engineering capability to solve this. It’s not afraid of spending money for example it’s spending $50 billion on a suburban rail loop in Melbourne alone that has very questionable benefits (compared to alternatives). That would comfortably replace half their coal fired generation with base load nuclear for example. It would be very easy for them to change course and decarbonize their grid here if they had the political motivation.

Unfortunately our politicians are controlled by Rupert Murdoch and funded by BHP/Coal...

I'm out of the loop (pun intended), what's the alternative?

Nuclear energy is attacked by environmental activists and the Greens party on a regular basis, ensuring it won't be an option in Australia.

Ironically, by attacking nuclear, you submit yourself to natural gas (barely better than coal) and batteries (non-renewable, expensive, mined by slaves etc).

This is why I roll my eyes whenever activists talk about renewable energy, knowing that as soon as you dig into their proposals you'll find filthy gas in the mix, or batteries. Nuclear, with it's extremely low deaths per kWh, is simply too dangerous we are told.

If you want a good video that shows the entrenched problem with the fossil fuel industry that has the Australian political class captured: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSZgoFyuHC8 (Honest Government Ad | Carbon Capture and Storage)

FYI Australian govt relation to this channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmCDxmZI3I8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNIYL5x1oy0

They're great!

It's hard to believe they're hanging onto fossil fuels so much. Move on.

We fuckn want to, mate!

There's a large move away from fossil fuels for the average person. I see a lot of electric cars, solar panels, and shopping centers have electric charging. There's only so much that can happen when both major political parties are owned by Rupert and the coal lobby. Hell, the govt is funding a coal mine somewhere in NSW because all the major banks refused to.

I know mate. I watch promotional videos from your government's department of genuine satire: https://www.youtube.com/user/thejuicemedia

JuiceMedia are awesome!

Presented in satirical style, but they are basically stating the truth of how much we are governed by vested interests that capture profits whilst creating or perpetuating negative impacts for the vast majority of the population.

In the same vein, on iview (abc.net.au) Micallef's last few seasons on Mad as Hell are cutting pretty close to the bone also, exposing the ugly truths of our inept/corrupt politicians via humour.

IMHO we sadly have no honest or brave politicians to vote for in any of the parties that have a chance at forming government.

Whole Australian economy is running mines and supporting infrastructure.

We're stuck with:

  1. An incompetent government    
  2. An incompetent people [who refuse to vote these fuckers out]    
  3. Basically the worst MSM in existence

They're not incompetent, they're very competently selling you out.

Was going to agree, they seem completely corrupt and on the take.

My theory is that all the police state and surveillance stuff they carry on with is primarily to keep exploiting the country without disruption.

Okay. You are right about that.

You imply there's a political solution, while seemingly glossing over the fact that both major parties support gas-fired plants and building new gas-fired capacity to shore up energy supply.

Even the Greens oppose the only proven baseload power source that's also green -- nuclear. [1]

As recently as last year, the opposition party supported the construction of new gas plants. [2]

The entire Australian political establishment supports the construction of new non-renewable power generation capacity, on both sides.

[1] https://greens.org.au/policies/nuclear-and-uranium

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/29/labor...

The evil elites partying at the Met are the villains

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