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How's that going to work for salad leaves that require co2 in packaging?

This bill won't affect bulk purchases, but for consumer-sized purchases salad greens don't require CO2 in packaging if you're expecting to use them in a reasonable amount of time. Our penchant for produce that doesn't go bad for very long periods of time is new, historically weird, and probably not great, yeah?

Also, if you absolutely need greens that are more robust and last longer, there are options like cabbage that will last quite a while just sitting in the fridge.

I don't want to shop daily, so I need produce that can last for at least a week. Otherwise I will cut them out of my diet, which will be slightly less healthy.

We have had a penchant for food that doesn't go bad for very long periods of time for ages (why do you think meat was salted?). Achieving it, especially without ruining the food, is a very recent accomplishment, which naturally the environmental people are looking to take away.

>there are options like cabbage

Yeah, but it's cabbage. So there's already an issue there. You forcing/suggesting someone to buy cabbage because it lasts longer than spinach, arugula, etc is not going to fly well with people that don't like cabbage.

And adding to our hilarious overuse of plastic shouldn't fly well with anyone. So what's your solution? Mine's "shop more frequently", which I do because I live in civilization and the store where I get my produce is a nice and pleasant walk (even in the winter it's not bad), but I'm open to alternatives.

Not everyone lives in the same place you do with the same access or time demands as you do

Then perhaps they should get used to things that don't have the same kinds of externalities, shouldn't they?

Reductive application of "externalities" to promote tyranny over people you don't like.

The "tyranny"--of not filling landfills with junk because I don't like impossibly slow arugula eaters, apparently!

Why are hackernews posters so awful and weird about food? Do you even listen to yourself? I mean, jeez, just put a wet towel in the pack like a normal person to get an extra couple days out of it instead of ranting about "tyranny" because somebody thinks that maybe it's okay that your spinach goes over in five days instead of eight and you should just buy less and get over it.

Why do you want to micromanage every aspect of other people's lives is more to the point?

> if you're expecting to use them in a reasonable amount of time

I don't know if you've noticed, but there's a pandemic currently going on and you should reduce your shopping frequency. Going to the grocer every week to get new produce is counterproductive.

It leads to less food waste, so it's good yea?

I don't know. Is "less food waste" better than "fewer plastics in the environment"? My intuitive answer is "no", but I'm willing to be convinced.

Spaniard here, according to the local media there will be an exception for food that may be degraded when sold in bulk.

Source (in Spanish) https://elpais.com/clima-y-medio-ambiente/2021-09-21/la-vent...

>the ban won't apply to food that is at risk of deterioration when sold in bulk

I guess precut and washed salad counts as convinience food and as it would seem strange if you couldn't sell fruit salad in plastic containers.

It may be that some consumer products are just too stupid to survive.

Indeed, busy people should just grab 20 McNuggets on the way home and be done with it.

I mean, the nerve, wanting a bag of quick already shredded lettuce that they can use for tacos tonight, a salad for lunch tomorrow, and finish out on Friday night burger grilling.

Horrible people they are.

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