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As someone with two kids, I'm more interested in the R1S, and I'm confused why they're not leading with the SUV, which seems to be a less competitive market segment. The Model X is the lone electric SUV, that I'm aware of, but it has a number of features that don't appeal to the average American buyer (the stupid doors, over-use of touch screens, etc.). The R1T will compete with the F-150 lightning and Cybertruck.

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Other electric SUVs: Ford Mustang Mach-E, Hyundai Kona Electric, Tesla Model Y, Volvo XC40 Recharge, Volkswagen ID.4, Jaguar I-PACE, Audi e-tron, Kia Niro EV.

Don't forget that emphasis on will compete. The Model X is already out (and so are a bunch of other EV SUVs now from a variety of manufacturers, as others pointed out), but neither the F-150 Lightning nor the Cybertruck are out yet, and while both have strong presales as this article points out Rivian is looking to beat them both to actual market, which also includes the small possibility of flipping presales if people can actually drive away with an R1T "today" versus wait another few months. (Though that's probably a very tiny possibility given the huge brand loyalties of both Tesla and the F-150.)

The Cybertruck isn't actually going to be a production vehicle so it's really only the F-150 Lightning which isn't even released yet.

Its amazing that people just claim this nonsense. Where are you getting this information TSLAQ twitter?

Tesla is literally building a gigantic factory that they have already invested billions into and they literally have about a million people who have put money down to get a pre-order (even at 10% conversion rate that is a lot) and somehow its but somehow its not going into production? Total nonsense.

So your belief is that Tesla is committing fraud? That the over 1.25 million reservations the have taken for the Cybertruck is some sort of scam?

Wouldn't be the first time.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/why-selling-full-self-d...

Was it a scam to take $3k from people for full self driving in 2016 and still not deliver?

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