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> Taiwan, China sea matters are localised to the close neighborhood of China.

Or the close neighborhood of the Philippines, a major US ally with a mutual defense pact. Or Taiwan, a major US ally and trading partner. Or Vietnam, a growing trading partner. There are ongoing disputes between and among those groups.

A huge amount of shipping goes through the South China Sea, including most oil for S. Korea, Japan and the US West Coast. Meanwhile, goods bound for Europe and the Suez from those places also go through there. Something like 10% of the worlds shipping. Letting China just call "dibs" on international waters and set up a chokehold would be weird to allow.

I don't think anyone is urging war with China. But stopping their advance in it's tracks.

Meanwhile, China has been aggressively expanding its influence worldwide, in South America, Africa and Afghanistan.

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> Meanwhile, China has been aggressively expanding its influence worldwide, in South America, Africa and Afghanistan.

In contrast to the U.S.? When other countries did this in the past and present, it was ok, but not for China? The U.S. can invade and occupy countries on the other side of the world, but it's aggressive for China to occupy an unoccupied island off its own coast?

I'm not thrilled with China's behavior, but the U.S. needs to stand down until they can act from the high moral ground. They have a lot of work to do to rebuild a working compass. Until then, nobody can trust their navigation.

> The U.S. can invade and occupy countries on the other side of the world, but it's aggressive for China to occupy an unoccupied island off its own coast?

Invading countries with a diplomatic alliance like NATO behind you is as close to "okay" as you can get. A small country got beat up, but there was no risk of WWIII. And there was an attempt to install a democracy in place of a dictatorship and get out.

China claiming the territory owned by their neighbors is about slowly stealing land (and sea) and making them part of China. It's completely different.

But really, the US's moral high ground is a distraction. This thread is about whether China is taking actions that could be a threat to the United States.

> China claiming the territory owned by their neighbors is about slowly stealing land (and sea) and making them part of China. It's completely different.

Tell that to Puerto Rico or Guam.

Yes, the United States did that in the past. It did it by fighting a war with Spain. That's why I would also agree with someone who said the US was a threat to Spain 120 years ago.

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>> But really, the US's moral high ground is a distraction. This thread is about whether China is taking actions that could be a threat to the United States.

> This thread is about whether China is taking actions that could be a threat to the United States.

This thread is about the U.S. producing a war plane. Somehow China is threatening the U.S. just by knowing about a weapon produced by the U.S.? China is the threat?

Whatever, if not thread, the posts you are responding to were about that. There are many posts that deal with the plane. This is focusing on China/US relations, as an offshoot conversation.

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