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My plan is to stick to windows 10 until full nvidia support for wayland arrive. Hopefully, 5 years is enough as things started to get better lately.

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Even though my new Framework laptop supports Wayland, unfortunately I'll probably end up installing Windows on it. And largely because of the display manager.

Wayland itself works great on Ubuntu 21.04. But the screen resolution means I must run at a fractional resolution for it to be usable. And many of my apps require special flags to work directly with Wayland (Chrome and Electron apps), some exhibit bugs when running under Wayland (VS Code), and some don't directly support Wayland at all yet (IntelliJ IDEA)—meaning they have to run under X11 compatibility and suffer from blurry text at fractional scales: https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/articles/440...

I can still run Xorg of course, with the old requisite tweaks to prevent screen tearing on Intel graphics. But directly comparing the performance of Wayland and Xorg on the same machine seems night and day to me (in Wayland's favor, at least under fractional scaling), so I'll likely resort to Windows 10 until the app ecosystem catches up to Wayland.

(And that makes me sad: I actually prefer Linux for several non-ideological reasons, ranging from ZFS to not relying on unstable registry hacks to invert my mouse's scroll wheel.)

You don't need to wait any longer. NVIDIA updated their driver for full Wayland support a few months ago.

Sounds pretty rough still

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-G...

Unless I'm misreading that completely its saying that Sway support is not yet even in beta.

Or you could just buy an AMD GPU.

Or I can just not generate e-waste by using my perfectly capable device until the end of its life.

Selling is an option, or using it for passthrough.

It’s a laptop. I’m not interested in selling it as it’s a great laptop and works fine for my needs. I’m a patient men and I can wait 5 years easily for proper wayland support. If it doesn’t come, then I think about selling it.

I’ve tried gpu pass through it was more annoying then installing arch to set it up. And made me realize that my dGPU is wired to my HDMI so I can’t use my hdmi while my dGPU is on my virtual machine.

Anyway, I’m not complaining about windows 10, I quite like it as everything works out of the box.

It sounds like it's pretty far from "perfectly" capable according to your needs.

How exactly do you know what my needs are?

I don’t “need” to run Linux on it for the next 5 years as windows 10 will continue to be supported.

I was assuming that if you actually knew enough about Linux to know that your use cases require full Wayland support and cannot be satisfied by X11, then you are probably already using Linux to some extent. It didn't seem realistic that you could have come to such a conclusion about Wayland if using Linux at all is merely a distant hypothetical to you.

Buying a GPU in 2021 is tricky for most people.

I've got a 1050ti that handles x11 and Wayland perfectly fine. I haven't put Wayland through it's paces with any games, but I've heard that the Nvidia 470.xx updates added in dramatically better xWayland support.

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