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Hmm. This is currently at -1.

I've obviously misstepped or misread the situation/context somehow. *Sigh* I'm sometimes really bad at this, sadly, despite my best efforts to the contrary. Sorry.

If someone would like to point out where I went wrong I'd greatly appreciate it.

Edit: I've realized that maybe my comment was interesting, but not as a reply to the specific comment I replied to. As my comment grew I thought at a couple different points that maybe it wasn't a good fit for subthread I was replying to, but barreled onwards because this happened to be dang's most recent reply to the whole thread at the time. Maybe this amounted to a spot of tone deafness - and if this is indeed the case, I do actively/explicitly request that my reply be detached from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28756111.

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If you want to contribute to an Arc based forum, the open source Anarki fork[0] is always open. It won't effect the original Arc distribution or HN but several other forums do use it.

[0]https://github.com/arclanguage/anarki

Huh, TIL that there are forks of Arc!

My only point of hesitancy with diving into something like this is my strong suspicion/fear that HN has diverged sufficiently enough from Arc that almost all improvements I made to news.arc et al would need manual/refactoring before they would be useful - and this would need to be done every time I tweaked something on my end.

My interest in Arc is motivated solely by the fact that it's what runs HN, and while part of my motivation to dive into HN from a technical standpoint is because I just like doing that :) the rest is just wanting to help the site get out of users' ways, while retaining a pragmatic focus.

I think you’re well intentioned obviously, but in your offer to help, the first thing you do is ask he take 5 minutes to digest your ideas, when he hasn’t really indicated he’s looking for help. Thats a very long time for an internet browser. So yes I think they’re downvoting the context not the content. They are interesting ideas though.

Yeah, I definitely mushed the context here; this wasn't the correct spot to put this.

Thanks also for the reference to the time factor. The text took a good maybe hour, maybe (while doing other things) to put together - and at that point I just wasn't considering that text might actually take some time to read. Time to start paying attention to how long I take to read...

There is indeed also a bit of subtle intermixing of "I help!" vs self-centeredness in there too. That one seems to be proving a bit of a real challenge.

Thanks very much for the clarification.

I thought it was tactless to insert yourself into the situation that way, well-intentioned or no.

Yep. :(

I need to find whatever volume control is set to "imperceptibly subtle" and turn it up so I don't need the 20/20 focus of hindsight to act correctly on these sorts of cues.

The clarification is honestly appreciated.

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