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Are you familiar with BootCamp, an explicitly advertised feature to boot into Windows (https://support.apple.com/boot-camp) - They've advertised it quite a bit. They maintain Windows drivers for their hardware.

Re on the M1 specifically, Apple suggests they'd totally be on board should Microsoft put in the effort:

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/14/arm-windows-m1-macs-not...

> Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi last year said that Windows coming to M1 Macs is "up to Microsoft." The M1 chip contains the core technologies needed to run Windows, but Microsoft has to decide whether to license its Arm version of Windows to Mac users.

I imagine that once Windows on Arm is supported, they'd be totally be on board.

Perhaps if you weren't so hostile in your replies, you'd be down-voted less. You come across as angry.

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Bootcamp is not allowing someone to fully boot any OS from the device. It is still a walled garden that limits hardware access, preventing the user from getting full performance out of the device.

> Perhaps if you weren't so hostile in your replies, you'd be down-voted less. You come across as angry.

You get what you read into it.

Majority of my posts are statements of fact yet they get downvoted because there's no placating the Apple horde with the truth.

> It is still a walled garden that limits hardware access, preventing the user from getting full performance out of the device.

What limits are you referring to, and by what performance metrics is Boot Camp unable to make full use of the hardware capabilities?

I understand you see it that way, but...

> ... there's no placating the Apple horde with the truth.

Pretty much summarizes what's I was suggesting as hostile.

> It is still a walled garden that limits hardware access, preventing the user from getting full performance out of the device.

That's not been my experience, but I guess in such circumstances your mileage may vary.

No, you're getting downvoted because you're making combative statements and picking fights over something that doesn't matter. Why do you care so much about this? Even if marcan and the rest of the Asahi folks are wasting their time, it's their time to waste, and in the meantime they're clearly deriving some amount of happiness from doing this work.

Even if you're right that Apple deliberately locks things down so the 4th or 5th or whatever generation of this hardware can't run anything but macOS, this project still has value. Maybe not to you, but it will to lots of people. And that's really all that matters. Your negativity here is a waste of time and is frankly boring and off topic.

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