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Quite interesting that the article and the electrospaces.net website cannot be shared on Facebook:

This URL goes against our Community Standards on spam: electrospaces.net To protect people on Facebook from spam, we don't allow content that contains such URLs.

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Curiously, yes indeed. Facebook blocked me from posting it because "spam".... Deliberate? I'd like to think not, but here's the question, how does one let them know of this? Their silly little series of notifications that it's forbidden gives no option for actually voicing any text complaint, except a generic disagreement check box. Ridiculous.

Quite interesting indeed. I'm most interested in the submarines and technology involved in performing such operations. How do they operate? what modifications are needed? what computing platforms do they possess? That being said, I really like the idea of submarine super computing platforms. Not because it brings to life the inner Tom Clancy, but knowing that a small part of the idea may present some kind of practical utility in the world of clandestine operation.

These are submarine cables (that is, cables installed under the sea) not cables installed or used by submarine boats.

How are submarine cables installed?

By surface ships. Near shore they use a towed plough to bury the cable, away from shore they just unreel the cable and let it lie on the seafloor.

The tapping of this particular cable happens on land with the paid aid of Cable&Wireless.

It's likely a false positive. We have no interest in trying to block it based on content.

(I work on network security/integrity, including terrestrial and subsea optical, at aforementioned company).

How one can tell FB that this might be a false-positive though?

That’s the beauty of it: you can’t.

Facebook doesn't listen to us peasants anyway, just like Google and the other mafia giants.

Yep.

The right (but useless) answer here is “Have a million dollar per month advertising spend, and talk to your account manager.”

Mafia? Simply intelligence. Both are criminal orgs above the law though

As always with reaching megacorps: any official channel would be hopelessly flooded with spam, so your only hope is to reach an employee through alternative means. Usually a sufficienlty large Titter storm is the most robust way. But, as illustrated here, luck can be had on any social network.

I am sorry if you feel offended, probably undeservedly, but understand that I heard a lot of explanations from the aforementioned company and those explanation usually turn out to be lies. It makes it difficult for me to trust anything from the aforementioned company without some more substantial proof.

You know the story Jack and the Wolf?

I looked at electrospaces website and I just can't figure out what cause it to be classified as "spam". Please, don't tell me it is AI because it has become so easy and convenient to avoid any responsibility by just saying "AI did it, not us".

I won't carry any water for aforementioned company's explanations, "AI did it" or not.

Speaking generally, spam detection (even in email) often has as much to do with the behavior of whoever is trying to send a message as it does the content. I _suspect_ that a group of people were spamming it as evidence for their conspiracy theories and enough people reported the messages that it got added to a filter. Same thing happens with domains used for phishing (Google Safe Browsing), email spam filters, or other things.

Anyway, I'm not offended. I'm surprised that people here, upon hearing hoofbeats (spam), thought zebras (conspiracy to suppress information) instead of horses (spam filter false positive).

I'm sure someone will look into why electrospaces was marked as spam on Monday...

It may well be false positive. But history of lies, suppression, lack of transparency and strangely convenient coincidences make people look for zebras first.

Obviously, it spreads misinformation and conspiracy theories, just look at this post about the nsa and GCHQ. Obviously just a bunch of tinfoil hat republican trumpies.

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