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You mean RADAR. LIDAR is a completely separate technology.

The RADAR issue is that Tesla is playing some "Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia" bull: https://insideevs.com/news/509515/tesla-removes-radar-detail...

But they've never used lidar...

It’s a common misconception. They did stop using radar, though. 100% sure that’s what the person you’re responding to meant :)

Yes my mistake thanks for clarifying!

Do you know any mass produced car that has built in LIDAR?

Just starting the mass-production but Lucid is using radar, cameras, and LIDAR.

Elon Musk was always against Lidar, well before any supply crunch, or Covid for that matter. See for example [1], published in 2019, and called "Elon Musk's war on Lidar"

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/05/06/elon-m...

At that point he had spent three years selling cars that he claimed had all of the necessary hardware for FSD. He was also already years later on his promise of coast to coast automation.

The non radar version was verified to successfully handle all cases and actually outperforms the radar and has less false positives.

The had been planning on that anyway eventually.