Comment by deeblering4 | Hacker News Reader

Comment by deeblering4 | Hacker News Reader

I think https://endlesss.fm got the approach to jamming over the internet right.

Instead of trying to reduce latency (which you simply cannot do beyond speed of light) endlesss implements a shared “multiplayer” 8 track looper.

Jammers add layers to the loop, which has a clock and supports sync via ableton live, external audio input, etc.

Plus, every addition to the looper is saved/versioned. You can move backwards through loops and export the audio stems. Its a great creative tool, and quick way to build on ideas with friends.

It’s way better than any of the live internet jamming software I’ve used, by far.

Endlesss is cool - in fact I know the founder. It's a different experience though - when it's live you feel someone else's presence compared with offline collab. Up to you what you prefer.

NINJAM also works on the same principle: https://cockos.com/ninjam/

  > The NINJAM client records and streams synchronized 
  > intervals of music between participants. Just as the 
  > interval finishes recording, it begins playing on 
  > everyone else's client. So when you play through an 
  > interval, you're playing along with the previous 
  > interval of everybody else, and they're playing along 
  > with your previous interval.

Ninjam is a bit different, in that its not a looper. The timing is offset to keep music sounding in sync to all clients, but what you play plays once and does not loop. In endlesss phrases will loop until they are changed or removed.

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