More importantly, Wikitravel is basically a dead man walking, and Wikivoyage is a living project.
More importantly, Wikitravel is basically a dead man walking, and Wikivoyage is a living project.
I guess I’d ask what authority you’re speaking from, because a quick perusal of their terms of use directly contradicts your claim. When you post content you sign over all ownership to them, and they do not allow scraping it.
https://www.internetbrands.com/ibterms
> You automatically grant and assign to us, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant and assign to us, a perpetual, irrevocable, unlimited, fully paid, fully sub-licensable (through multiple tiers), worldwide license to copy, perform, display, distribute, prepare derivative works from (including, without limitation, incorporating into other works) and otherwise use any content that you post. You also expressly grant and assign to us all rights and causes of action to prohibit and enforce against any unauthorized copying, performance, display, distribution, use or exploitation of, or creation of derivative works from, any content that you post (including but not limited to any unauthorized downloading, extraction, harvesting, collection or aggregation of content that you post).
>Any copying, aggregation, display, distribution, performance or derivative use of our sites and services or any content posted on our sites and services whether done directly or through intermediaries (including but not limited to by means of spiders, robots, crawlers, scrapers, framing, iframes or RSS feeds) is prohibited.
"Text is available under [http://wikitravel.org/shared/Copyleft Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0] images are available under [http://wikitravel.org/shared/How_to_re-use_Wikitravel_guides various licenses], see each image for details. This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. "
which implies the licensing details are hosted on the shared site, but they apply to the content on wikitravel.org.
Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 unless otherwise noted.
Wikitravel is using my content under the CC-bySA license. The license they are using my content under does not permit them to forbid someone from copying the content.
It doesn't matter if just 1% of the content was copied unlawfully - that's infringement.
So cjensen is right... They do not have any copyrights. They only have a license to use your copyrighted works themselves.
But you notice it doesn't say it's an exclusive license. Then they claim you've given them the right to "prohibit and enforce against any unauthorized copying". Which might be true, but I don't see how they have any right to define "unauthorized", since it's not their copyright, and their license isn't exclusive.
However, when I look at actual edit history, wikivoyage seems indeed more active. So you got a point there.
I usually check both.
Valid complaint does not mean honest or accurate complaint. Only that all information legally required to file a complaint is supplied.
You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...