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Comment by teruakohatu | Hacker News Reader

> real meat ballpark hot dog

I agree with you, although if a "ball park hotdog" is what I imagine, I doubt it has much real meat. It is probably protein and coloring. I think in the USA they can call it mechanically separated meat.

A friend worked at a protein extraction plant here in New Zealand. They extracted the grey goopy protein from animal offcuts for the "fake sausage" industry. Just about any unused animal part was used. In New Zealand a real sausage has to contain at least 50% actual meat.

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> Just about any unused animal part was used.

I can't logically see this particular aspect as anything but a pro rather than a con. Shouldn't we make use of every bit of an animal and reduce waste as much as possible? A video essay talking about Jamie Oliver's War on Nuggets [1] makes an argument better than I could about why this specific point against mechanically separated meat might not at least be consistent. Not to say there aren't other valid reasons to be against mechanically separated meat (or meat as a whole).

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-a9VDIbZCU

Sausage was always traditionally made from the trimmings and parts of an animal that were not “cuts of meat”. That was part of using as much of the animal and not wasting things. It might make us squeamish now if you were raised on only pure muscle meat, but there is nothing really wrong with it. There is a reason that they say you don’t want to see the sausage being made.

I don't understand, what makes mechanically separated meat not real meat?

There is no structure to it and it might be from parts considered traditionally (depending on the cultural) inedible.

The exteme version of this is pink slime:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime

Sure, I'm aware of what it is, but I still don't understand how people consider it not meat. If I pureed a steak, I'd still consider it meat (well, liquid meat). And just because there were meats we didn't traditionally eat doesn't make them not meat.

It just feels like the fake distinction people make where they don't consider fish meat.

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