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Incorporating this new information would lead to policies that support vaccine mandates and masking.

But then again, that's always been what I thought the policies should be since there was never any strong claims to vaccines preventing transmission.

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How is one supposed to debate with someone who thinks the sun rises in the west? If you can't even process the basic facts about vaccines - they don't reduce spread but reduce risk of complication - that logically make mandates and masks useless (which is now also being proven in real-world data), I mean, there's no point in discussion. You can say the sky is red as many times as you want, that doesn't make it true. Besides the fact that by your logic this is a new ridiculous equilibrium for life, with PERPETUAL quarantines, testing, masks, employer enforcement of personal medical choices, passports to do anything, and more broadly everyone hating each other's guts. Sounds fun!!! Totally worth it!!! Places like Sweden and Florida don't count!!!

You're replying to a thread devoted to discuss evidence the efficacy with which vaccines reduce spread, in which they note that the transmission rate is much lower in doubly vaccinated households than unvaccinated household, and also comment that they were a little surprised and disappointed that the vaccine was not more efficient in reducing transmission, as other vaccines often are.

I don't think you're in a position to lecture people about inability to process basic facts if your partisan screed depends on ignoring this to insist that "they don't reduce spread" is an established fact about vaccines. How is one supposed to debate with someone who insists the sun rises in the west, indeed?

The only person with a reality perception issue is you. Your posts are extremely ironic.

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