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I've always found it strange that some Americans focus on politeness above all.

Of all the problems in your story, the employee shouting is the least 'wrong'. You've got a woman who won't wear a mask, yourself who sneaked in without a mask, and that's just in that moment of time, but somehow the employee who has to deal with that behavior all day every day is the bad person because they lost their cool.

It's one of those 'everyone sucks here' stories.

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I mean, I saw the “masks required in this county” sign, but I really needed to pee. I knew I was going to be driving through that county for about 20 more minutes, so I checked my car for a mask. I couldn’t find one as there’s no mask mandate in my area so I’ve stopped carrying a mask around. I then held my shirt up as best I could as a “mask” and made a bee line for the bathroom. If they’d had masks at the door I’d have been perfectly fine with putting one on.

I wasn’t making any judgment about the woman yelling at people, I’d be mad if I was being threatened with fines by the local government for having maskless people in my establishment too.

> I’d be mad if I was being threatened with fines by the local government for having maskless people in my establishment too.

Ha. Perhaps she was mad because she was at risk of being exposed to Covid all day long due to boneheads who were incapable of reading, or wearing a mask, and some of them turned around and gave her grief for it?

Sounds like she should be vaccinated

That could be it. But there's of course no way to know what the source of her neurosis is with no further information.

He’s vaccinated, so it seems a little dramatic to be calling OP a bad person and that they suck.

A more charitable reading is that the people involved in OP's story suck.

That’s a misreading, because GP explicitly calls out OPs behavior as bad.

The vaccine protects you but still allows you to carry and spread a viral load. The mask protects people around you but not yourself but limiting the viral load that you can spread.

By being a vaccinated unmasked person in a crowd of non-vaccinated people, you possibly become a super spreader.

The vaccine drastically reduces your chance to spread the virus.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.13.21260393v...

Vaccinated people still spread the covid and vaccinated people still get covid. Most of my friend group was infected when two vaccinated friends came up to visit. They said they were feeling sick but because they were vaccinated it was fine. I think everyone in the group but 1 person was vaccinated.

The idea that once you are vaccinated you don't need to social distance or wear a mask is wrong and is getting people sick. In fact a vaccinated infection appears to have the same viral load as an unvaccinated. https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-sim...

If I'm out in public, I wear socks everyday (well most), I wear a shirt, I wear pants. Its not much of a stretch to wear a mask out in public too.

Vaccinated people don’t take up hospital beds. That’s the resource that’s constrained.

Vaccinated people also have a lower rate of transmission.

Your first statement is categorically false. https://dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine/vaccine-breakthroug...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... (table 5 page 19)

Your second statement is categorically false. See my comment above... you know the one you responded too. It actually links to a study showing the viral load is the same. Or here is another study: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...

Please stop spreading misinformation. Saying vaccinated people have a lower chance of getting covid is a true statement. However both of your statements are straight up misinformation.

No, they're not. You can try to split hairs and talk about how the rates are just lower, sure, but vaccinated people are not taking up beds (like the unvaccinated are).

Please take a look at the rest of the thread for sources that vaccinated individuals spread covid at lower rates than the unvaccinated.

Please stop spreading antivax FUD.

I didn't read the comment as putting the employee in a bad light.

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