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Except they also add tons of overhead which also makes everything go slower, including that meeting to discuss why we go so slow.

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Reminds of the time NPM (the CLI) was made slower by having an inefficient progressbar, disabling the progressbar made installations significantly faster.

https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/11283

So maybe progressbars are not always so different than project managers?

New insult for PMs: You're worse than NPM's progress bar!!

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