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What about a simple "I don't have a mobile?" A lot of folks forget there are still people who don't have one - and many who don't want one. If the store won't transact with someone simply because they don't feel like handing out that bit of information (or simply because they don't have the information to provide), they're not really a store worth transacting with.

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Don’t feel like you need to lie. Just say, “no”.

I didn't suggest to lie, I said, what if the customer actually doesn't have a mobile? Have we reached the point now where if someone claims not to have one, they're lying?

I should clarify i wasn't referring to myself - I have a mobile (deGoogled, at least). But there do exist people who don't want or need a mobile device.

sure, but you may still have a landline. but... the whole "we need this for returns" line is just weird.

You replied to “I forgot my phone” and I thought you were helping that argument.

No, wasn’t a lying argument. If you go out without your phone, fair answer to give.

exactly, just say no, firmly. most folks (retail or otherwise) would rather avoid confrontation so will opt for the workaround (that retailers institute as a backup since they typically would rather not lose business entirely).

but also, have no qualms about providing false information. you have no legal obligation in most cases to provide accurate info, and companies often employ deception in trying to elicit oversharing private info anyway.

Or in my case "I just have my German phone number" (when I'm in Canada).

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