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Chechen terrorists fought for independence. Chechnya is part of Russia, so Russia won that war. They did not plan to invade Ukraine, they planned to provide the conditions for fair voting in Crimea and they did that, which allowed for Crimea to join Russian Federation.

driving voters off the territory you plan to hold a vote on is a well known tactic for centuries at this point, as is getting your voters onto the territory you want annexed with a 'fair vote'.

> They did not plan to invade Ukraine, they planned to provide the conditions for fair voting in Crimea and they did that, which allowed for Crimea to join Russian Federation.

What is this brazen propaganda of Russian militarism doing on hn?!

I was not referencing the invasion of Ukraine however.

Don't even mention Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is a tough nut. US failed there as well.