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>In the event of an outbreak, the C.D.C. said, “there is enough smallpox vaccine to vaccinate every person in the United States.”

We'd be lucky to get 80% uptake. I can already imagine all of the anti smallpox vaccine propaganda that would spread through FB within a day.

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There's a difference between someone coughing through their illness on instagram versus someone covered head to toe with boils. Maybe someone could call it "a somewhat stronger chickenpox" as a method of dismissal, but it'll be difficult.

The amount of people I've heard say "I have a strong immune system" (or some variation), as if that's a defense to COVID, I'm sure would have no problem trotting that out against Smallpox.

When we can make Big Bird promoting vaccination a political issue, I expect the amount of people who would reject a smallpox vaccine would be disturbingly high.

The weird thing about that is the age bracket at greatest risk of dying from COVID were actually vaccinated for smallpox. If that came to pass, the elderly would be watching their children and grandchildren die.

My parents generation lived through Polio. They've seen first hand what an effective vaccine can do for themselves and their children.

The world has become deeply un-serious in the last few decades. To the point where I'm not alone in being unsure we can predict any particular reaction, including farcical dismissal.

Perhaps like this upcoming comedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbIxYm3mKzI

I have zero interest in taking the COVID "vaccines", but I'd take the smallpox vaccine in a heartbeat if it was coming back.

They're not remotely the same thing. The former drops to less than 50% effectiveness after six months, the latter eradicated the disease.

So you'd rather have no effectiveness by not getting the vaccine at all?

Given the risk of myocarditis and other things against the low risk of my demographic with COVID, I'd rather not take the drug with no long term studies.

Regarding myocarditis from the Moderna vaccine: "For instance, Israel reported <150 cases among five million vaccine recipients; the US military reported 23 among 2.8 million doses. In both cases, young adult males were affected for the most part."

So that's a 0.003% and 0.0008% rate, respectively. And you have a 0.15% chance of getting myocarditis from COVID-19 itself.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211116/Myocarditis-among...

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm

If it's safe, why were the industrial drug dealers given legal immunity before it even started?

If it's effective, why do we need boosters?

It's a convenient money grab for industrial drug dealers, and their pet politicians get a power grab.

The smallpox vaccine didn't need a booster after six months. Because it's a vaccine.

The COVID preparations do, because they're not vaccines. They're treatments. That are risky, and weakly effective.

They're only called "vaccines" because the Ministry of Truth has been very busy this year rewriting the definition of "vaccine".

Why do you trust these numbers? There are (in all logical likelihood) far more instances of myocarditis than are reported, as well as far more instances of covid than reported. This immediately makes the death rate of covid go down and the rate of myocarditis go up by some unknown factor that nobody can possibly know. A fit, healthy young male has no reason to be vaccinated in such a situation.

As another poster as shown, the risk of myocarditis is incredibly low. Certainly much lower than the risks of contracting COVID without the vaccine. And where are the long term studies of the effects of COVID? I'll take my chances with the vaccine.

"They're not remotely the same thing. The former drops to less than 50% effectiveness after six months, the latter eradicated the disease."

Would you only take the first Smallpox vaccine, or would you get the booster every 3 years?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/smallpox/index.html

Adverse reactions (including myocarditis): https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/vaccine-basics/vaccination-effe...

It also eradicated small pox since the vaccine was mandated.

When those who are not vaced ends up death at 30%, and far more disfigured we won't have an issue with that vax.

Covid is deadly, but not too deadly.

At this point I am half considering if I should get one just because - and also not sure what I would say to whom to get a smallpox vaccine.

I imagine most of the skeptical people would be happy with a smallpox vaccine given it is a real vaccine that provides immunity by injecting an inactive (non replicating) virus. Compared to the latest ones that do something entirely different and at beast provide 'protection' - the CDC changed the definition of the word vaccine to include these latest bunch of jabs.

For every person who is skeptical to the "new" vaccines you'll find a person skeptical to the "old" vaccines, and I'd be surprised if there wasn't significant overlap (i.e. the people saying that they don't want to take the COVID vaccines because they're too new suddenly saying that they don't want to take the smallpox vaccine for $reasons).

Doesn't help that the "standard" smallpox vaccine is quite nasty in terms of application and side effects (leaves a scar): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine#ACAM2000

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