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No I am not ;).

Nice work (and very nice name — although know that Picasso was actually an asshole). The slides are a very nice addition to the landing pages, I think the link to them should be emphasized more: http://slides.pablojs.com/.

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Everybody knows that Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k43XjuhInkU

I love the cover of this song on the Repo Man soundtrack

The David Bowie version is pretty cool too.

At least not in New York.

>although know that Picasso was actually an asshole

Well, as opposed to who of us? The main difference being that we know of his private life...

That's a good point. I'm not at all saying “#NotAllMen”.

But not all projects are named after someone, or have a reference to that someone on their front page (here, a quote).

Where does #NotAllMen fit in?

When coldtea said "Well, as opposed to who of us?" he implied that we all are assholes. Given the reason I was saying that about Picasso, which are all linked to sexist behavior and patriarchy, I understood that "us" as "men".

I didn’t infer he was talking about men specifically. Plenty of women are assholes, an equal amount to men I would say. It’s a universal human phenomenon.

Yes. That's why I explained the context which led to my understanding of his comment when you asked.

What are you responding “yes” to? The part I’m disagreeing with is that men are uniquely assholes.

I'm agreeing with “It’s a universal human phenomenon.”.

I was mostly meaning it as in: "who are we to judge", as opposed as to "we are all assholes". I'm sure plenty are assholes, plenty are not, and many women are too.

But my point was, any of us could be much worse, including those pointing the finger at Picasso, the main difference being that we don't have our lives open for all to see, as is the case with someone like Picasso.

Well I'd say most of us aren't "dating a 17 year old while 45" kind of questionable.

It wasn't that questionable in 20th century Paris, much less to artistic and bohemian circles...

They weren't exactly about puritan prudery and bourgeois morality...

Not to mention that "I disaprove of him dating a 17th year old when he was 45" to "asshole" is quite a long way...

You know that was considered fine until like a couple decades ago right? And even now it’s highly dependent on culture.

its a reference to the Modern Lovers song "Pablo Picasso" (I think)

All this time I thought it was a John Cale song! (Granted I'd never checked)

Edit: Huh, he did produce it, played on the original recording, and then released his cover before the original: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Picasso_(song)

It was not, I didn't know about that song.

I put a list of link about Picasso elsewhere in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29292805

It is possible to appreciate art without tedious pro-forma denunciations of the artist's behavior? At some point a creator's name is less about a historical person or apocryphal personage than the collective value found in artifacts and ideas.

I understand why you would say that, adolph. But first, Picasso's art is tightly linked to his misbehavior, and second, we're not even talking about Picasso's art here, we're discussing the name of a project which is a direct reference to Picasso.

> Picasso's art is tightly linked to his misbehavior

No it isn't. Don't get stuck on stupid.

Please read the references I put elsewhere in this thread before saying such things. You are wrong. It's not a matter of opinion, it is a fact that some of his paintings are direct expression of his violence against women. And that his career was partly made possible by his exploitation of his (successive) wives (who he happens to have intentionally broken their career for two of them).

What did he do?

You could check these references:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-13/picassos-depiction-of...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-28/hannah-gadsby-intervi...

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/picasso-was-an-ar...

https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a41293/bertoluc...

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