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I hope this eventually leads to the ability to remove ads. It's unbelievable to me that you can pay top dollar for a high end OLED tv and it will still drown you in ads and notifications. I ended up just disconnecting my tv from the internet entirely and using a dedicated Roku Ultra for streaming.

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Panasonic OLEDs are the same price as LG but they show no ads whatsoever, don’t have gimmicky menus, and turn on in 5 seconds flat.

They moved to Android since 2020.

Shouldn’t have to do this at all, obviously, but at least if it’s android then you’re just a few commands away from removing most anything.

Used it to rid my Sony of all the annoyances and the continual “enable samba?” Prompts that kept coming up despite always choosing “disable” explicitly.

Google for “adb remove ads <model/brand>” or similar. 20 minutes helped my wife not be annoyed at popovers on the TV, and saved me countless time looking for the OEM remote. :D

I’ve found the android based TVs to be awful. Their boot up time is slow and they often seem to have trouble starting via the Apple TV remote.

Haha, I find the recommendation for Panasonic for an ad free experience quite ironic.

They were the first to go there circa 2013: boot screen, home screen and volume ads.

But, they got a lot of backlash, and I doubt it was as lucrative as expected, so it appears they removed them in more recent years.

Maybe the OLED displays are in a different class in their lineup. I only ever owned this one Panasonic OLED from 2018.

Then you shouldn't make a general recommendation for all Panasonic OLED TVs.

We all have bad days but perhaps you should read the comment again and try and be a bit less confrontational?

Panasonic got out of the NA TV market a few years ago, and no warranty+exorbitant shipping costs means it isn't worth buying one in Europe and having it shipped.

They're also ending their inhouse TV production and outsourcing it for 2022, which probably means they're going to get worse.

I have a 15" LCD from 1998 and it turns on in a few hundred ms. 2010s+ LCDs take about 5-10 seconds which is insanely slow (even for a casual user, in which case it causes more confusion when plugging cables in because he's likely to assume the cables are wrong and disconnect them because the screen didn't react right away). TVs take as long or worse because they are simply more poorly designed. 5 seconds is literally longer than it takes for a CRT to turn on and have a viewable picture.

The general quality of hardware can be gleaned as the inverse of how much software is in it.

As for vendor fetishizing: All monitor/TV vendors are terrible.

Wait, where do you get all those ads? I might be blind but I don't see any in my CX. Unless you count the "recommendation service".

> Unless you count the "recommendation service"

Which will never turn on if you don't agree to the terms & conditions. So far, I've been able to avoid things like ads, but every time the TV pops up with an update I get the Fear.

I do not want ads or voice commands on my devices. Especially not given I paid a premium :/.

pihole + check connections made from tv + block em == no ads

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