They’re not usually being used as daily phones with an SBC being shaped into a phone. The Gemini is never that price, it’s always on “sale”. Do you use them PPP daily? All new android phones are mainlined, it’s been years, even before either phone existed.

Let’s look at the subreddits for real user experience, who is using it daily? Where are the good experiences? Everyone is selling their L5 or getting a refund, and saying stuff like this;

> You will not get a full day of charge out of one battery, but you can take spare batteries to swap out. I'm not sure if there's a direct way of running Signal, but it looks like you can bridge it to Matrix using mautrix-signal. I have a similar setup to use WhatsApp (with the Android app running in a VM on a VPS).

>Everything else you listed works, but it may be a bit rough around the edges. I've been daily-driving my PinePhone (running Mobian) since May, so it's certainly possible, but don't expect the experience to be anywhere close to a modern Android or iPhone.

> Don't. This is beta level hardware with an alpha level OS and Software. If you're looking for functionality, you're in the wrong place. Check back in a couple years.

So you can daily drive a battery killing device if you want a bad experience if you want to use apps you rely on VMs, Anbox which doesn’t work, swapping batteries, and yes it technically works if you don’t value modern benefits like a good keyboard, browser, it’s not a standalone functional device like a Linux desktop.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Librem5

https://reddit.com/r/PinePhoneOfficial/comments/qknefi/think...