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Comment by gbmatt | Hacker News Reader

both ddg and brave are bing (microsoft) in disguise.

This is not correct. Brave Search owns its own (growing) index and relies on third-parties like Bing for some fraction of the requests. Which is not the same thing as relying fully on Bing or third-parties for results like so many meta-search engines. More detailed answer here: https://search.brave.com/help/independence

Edit: Forgot to say that I work on Brave Search.

brave 'falls back' to bing. which in my experience is most of the time. in fact, out of all the queries i did a while back, they all seemed to come directly from bing. is there a way to disable the reliance on bing and get pure 'brave only' results? and can you be more specific as to what this fraction is? do you blend at all?

You can check exactly which fraction of the results were fetched from Brave's index vs. third-parties using the "independence score" found in the setting drawers (opening can be done with the cog icon at the top right of any page on search.brave.com). There is there a global and personalized score of independence (respectively aggregated on all user's and for your queries only).

Explanation is also found here with screenshots: https://search.brave.com/help/independence

What independence percentage do you see when you click on the gear in upper right of the Brave Search results page?

I get 84% personal (browser-based), 87% global (which means we hit Bing only 13% of the time from our server side).

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