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"Intelligent design" is a label invented deliberately as part of a political strategy by a group of evangelical Christians to teach creationism in American public schools. This history was well documented decades ago so it's bizarre to see someone try to pretend otherwise.

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By "intelligent design" different people might mean different things, I don't know the roots of word, but for me fine tuning seems something very close to that concept. Imagine how many values speed of light could have, 1km/hour? 1m/hour? and life would be totally different, not trying to push idea of "intelligent design". My main message was something we could not comprehend today, does not mean it is wrong, someone in the future might prove it. So throwing one huge idea as non-scientific feels like ignorance to me. Like censoring some minority groups if you don't like the idea

On the topic of fine-tuning I found this book from 2011 and subsequent debate quite thought-provoking:

>The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning: Why the Universe Is Not Designed for Us (by Victor J. Stenger)

https://www.amazon.com/Fallacy-Fine-Tuning-Why-Universe-Desi...

>The Fine-Tuning of the Universe for Intelligent Life ... This paper can be viewed as a critique of Stenger's book, or read independently.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.4647

>Defending The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning (by Victor J. Stenger)

https://arxiv.org/abs/1202.4359

> Imagine how many values speed of light could have, 1km/hour? 1m/hour? and life would be totally different

And if that _was_ the case, someone who managed to evolve under those circumstances would be saying "imagine if light was so fast that you didn't experience time dilation when you walked somewhere! That would obviously be ridiculous, so someone must have set it to 1km/h". The conditions we live under appear normal to us because, well, we live under them. That doesn't mean they're the only possible conditions.

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