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If you're seriously thinking about buying this go try the other Kinesis keyboards first. After you get in the ergonomic territory I find the comfort increases to be very marginal.

IMHO assuming you have no ergonomic setup at all you're better off buying a Kinesis Freestyle, a used Steelcase/Herman Miller chair, and a VESA mount for your monitor/laptop to make it eye level - all of which can be had for the cost of the Pro version.

That being said this looks like a very nice purchase for those who have the money to micro optimize.

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FWIW: We had ergonomics consultants in 3-4 years ago and they recommended displays be lower because having them higher makes your eyes open wider and dry out more. If you have problems with dry eyes, maybe try lowering your display?

That's super interesting I have never heard or thought of that. I wonder how that compares to tilting your head back slightly to get the same eye:monitor angle?

This is all getting into personal preference, but AFAIK, ergonomic standards do not exactly recommend eye level, they recommend that looking in a straight line you should see over top of edge of the monitor. There's definitely some tradeoffs to be had as having the monitor too low can put stress on your neck (which translates to neck pain after a while).

That sounds reasonable. What I've seen from various websites, and enjoy from personal experience, is having the top of the monitor at, or slightly above, eye level.

That's gonna really depend on the monitor, of course. My 46" 4K, that'd be on the floor. :-) But, I've had pretty good luck with keeping my monitors lower, and I tend to have issues with dry eyes.

I agree with this take. I've used a Freestyle 2 for years and _loved_ it. I tried the Advantage 2 and it gave me headaches -- I couldn't deal with the keys being in different spots.

Switched back to Freestyle 2 and I couldn't be happier.

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