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Reminds me of a software engineer colleague who complained endlessly about city bus drivers making more money than they did.

"Well, go become a city bus driver then."

"Um, uh..."

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Or maybe he was asking why engineers were paid so low compared to blue collar jobs. If our work is valued the same as bus drivers, then ok, he should switch careers. But if it's not valued the same, as HN frequently demonstrates with its discussions boasting about massive dev salaries, your colleague is rightly asking why engineers are paid so low compared to bus drivers.

Which camp are you in? Either way, maybe it's time for a tech union, clearly these workers at Kellogg and other industries are getting their demands met. Why aren't we?

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