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apartheid was a racist policy that discriminated against people based on their skin color… you’re comparing this to mandating a vaccine that dramatically reduces the hospitalization rate during an international pandemic that has killed more than 5 million people in 2 years

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I've been vaccinated 3 times. But. 5m out of 7 billion on Earth. The WHO is making rumblings of downgrading pandemic to endemic. Your body is all you really have so if someone chooses to not get vaccinated I believe that to be their (and my) right. I won't have that decision made for me and I won't make that decision for another, except my boy, who is too young to decide for himself. Just like my parents vaccinated me against Polio without asking me first.

The vaccine is not mandatory in Canada.

Not de jure, but it seems they are trying to make it so de facto.

Are you really straw manning the poster? to say "racism" cannot be compared to covid discrimination and that making the comparison makes him or his argument any “less than” is an emotional character assassination based argument not merits based one.

If you’re looking for a response to your numbers that you pulled out, we still have many worse diseases and our leaders economic policies during covid impacted and hurt more people than the “5 million dead”

I also didn’t see you or anyone complaining about the obesity; diabetes, car crashes; depression and other far worse epidemics that we’ve had induced by our same shitty health agencies that sell us the covid cure today.

Comparing covid vaccine mandates to racism severely minimizes how bad racism was/is. It’s the same reason I roll my eyes when people start making vaccine passport holocaust comparisons, it’s absurd hyperbole.

I can’t spread obesity diabetes and depression to others. Cars are regulated immensely (though I do think it’s better to design cities that don’t need them… and hey people that walk more are less obese, which reduces diabetes risk).

For someone quick to point out a supposed fallacy, you’re heavily leaning on whataboutism. Not that you care, but I am also active in my city for improving pedestrian infrastructure at the expensive of space for cars, and I live in one of the most walkable cities in the country.

> dramatically reduces the hospitalization rate

When administered to the at risk population. When required for young, hospitalization system impact would be marginal.

Not correct. Here is the official source:

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2...

Please cite your sources.

Your link does not address age-specific hospitalization effects of vaccination. As a result, it is non-responsive to the GP's position. If you posted the wrong link and meant to post one that addresses GP's point of view, would you mind fixing the link? On the other hand, on the off chance it was intentional, please try to engage with more honesty and more in good faith.

That is all people lumped together. Like I said remove "at-risk".

Cool.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-s...

Which groups are not "at-risk" here? What age? Because it seems like there is a significant % of the population in groups other than 80+ that are in the hospital.

Under 50 has 20% of ICU cases (how many are incidental and without comorbidity?).

You are the one who made the claim that age is relevant to this when it is not as if the ICUs are full, it impacts everyone.

So maybe find the source and share it here since you are the one who made the argument? Burden of proof is on you, not me.

You don't need to share your results, but try to find the answer to that question. I have done so and it's a terrible uphill battle and, for most data points, left only to anecdotal evidence.

In my case I was looking for covid case data in children broken down by age. The only data I found was over 18 and under 18. It wasn't until recently when 0-4, 5-12 and 12-18 age group data was shared. So while I understand your point, it's doing a disservice to the actual problem at hand and thats enabling others to make advised choices.

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