They're founders, and I bet there are no shortage of founders around here who've worked for under $30k on their startups.

For someone else? No. For my own project? Anytime.

Yeah, not all in life is money, some of us love to create things.

I had been EXPENDING my own money for my own projects so that is minus $10,000 a year.

Oh, I almost forget, not everybody lives in NY or Silicon Valley, there are cheaper places to live around the globe where $30,000 is a lot of money.

Have you ever started your own biz (that wasn't just a freelance / small consultancy / lifestyle gig)? If so, serious question: what did you pay yourself in the first year of your first biz?

been doing it for $0 salary for years now