Edit: Sorry, low value comment. Seeing it written out, it just really struck me.
From the perspective of the people in the other side in that latter case everything is fine and everyone else are just whining. You can especially see this in places where status is uneven (e.g. the guys who went to the right schools call the shots) or where there’s some kind of hazing tradition (e.g. medicine or law have brutal startup loads for early career people but are resistant to change because all of the senior people have, by definition, been the ones who were able to deal with it and changes won’t benefit them).
The thing about Intel is, there has been a lot of bad press lately, specifically about attrition of good staff; so I am puzzled why a star would enjoy working with who's left. Maybe they have personal connections and know better, or are going to bring friends over.
I feel bad being so negative about Intel. I know if I was there and reading commentary like this I would be disappointed. So I hope this is all just overblown by the media and I apologize for buying it.
But he's also expanding his responsibilities, going from just Mac SoC design to being in charge of Intel's entire division.
He likely had the power to negotiate all kinds of working conditions, budgets and general other power before he signed on the dotted line.
A high-level, high-demand executive has a very different hiring experience than the average engineer.
Apple also had their fair share of Silicon Engineers leaving in the past 3 years. What happened to Apple being the best place to work?
Was it?
Ever?
It's much tougher to measure other metrics, as how much you value autonomy and "not spending your entire day triaging emails" is going to be a lot more subjective.
If someone thinks it’s a terrible place to work at, more money won’t make it “unterrible”.
I've been working at Apple for the last 17 years. At my last perf-review (which went very well), my boss was talking about promotion and where I wanted to go in my career: ICT6 (really hard to get, ICT5->ICT6 is based more on opportunity becoming available rather than ability IMHO) or Management. ICT6 comes with a $200k or so pay rise, a significant fraction of my comp, so it's a big jump.
My answer was simple enough: I plan to retire within the next 5 years (I'm 52 now); I'll go whichever path will make the most money before I retire. I'm willing to put up with a non-ideal work environment for a while in order to reap more financial rewards that might let me retire even earlier.
(I have an excellent working relationship with my boss, who is an adult and acts like one; we can talk openly and honestly about these things)
I make a lot of money at Apple, and I like working here, but it's still work and I work to live, not the other way around. I want to be able to enjoy the fruits of my labour while I'm still young enough to appreciate it, so my drive is simply money. It's evolved over time, and certainly when younger, "cool project" was more of a drive, but now that I'm approaching end-game ... things change.