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Posthog as well as Snowplow are open source solutions that can be self hosted. Snowplow is always hosted in your cloud infrastructure even if you use their managed service.

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Fathom's EU docs (https://usefathom.com/features/eu-isolation) seem to suggest that EU-hosted but US-owned cloud infrastructure isn't sufficient either though - you're exposing any data stored/transferred through there to access by the US government.

That means Posthog self-hosted on an AWS server in Frankfurt wouldn't avoid this issue.

What're the best options for non-US owned cloud providers? AFAICT Canada or many other countries with privacy laws would be fine, it's really the US specifically that's problematic.

well according to them they use hetzner and I'm not sure but since hetzner now has us servers they might be in the wrong, too. it has nothing to do with us companies...

When creating a new VM at Hetzner, you have to explicitly pick the US location, for the exact same GDPR reasons. Hetzner has to do this or risk loosing customers because hosting in the US and/or using US services is forbidden for some kind of infrastructures.

let's be honest, no ones want to self hosts a website analytics application because in most of the cases they just want to focus on their core business, or at least that's the value proposition of SaaS. This will ultimately limit innovation to bigger companies that can afford maintaining their own infrastructure for everything.

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