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> In our experiments, disabling PayPal cuts revenue by ~30% in our industries.

I’m curious- have you considered adding other third party gateways (Apple Pay/Amazon Pay/something else)? I personally try to avoid entering my card number, so my general order of precedence is Apple Pay > Amazon Pay > Paypal > card entry.

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We have Shopify's "Pay" and Apple Pay, crypto and regular Visa / MC gateways (Stripe). We haven't tried Amazon pay - I'll try it as an experiment to see what happens.

However, the fact remains that removing PayPal means losing business. Consumers are shielded from (most) PayPal's horrors, and just see the advantages: ease of use, ubiquity and "guaranteed win" claims against the merchant.

Dang. I try to avoid PayPal as a consumer because I'm familiar with these practices (I use services like Venmo but always withdraw immediately upon receipt). But if the only other option is sending my card number on a less reputable site, I'll pick PayPal over card entry every time.

Google Pay might be another gateway to consider as well. While I prefer to always use Apple Pay, it's not available in Chrome, even on a Mac or iOS device.

Paypal no longer gives users guaranteed win - I had a highly documented case of a seller refusing to honor their warranty, and Paypal stiffed me. Paypal is just toxic.

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