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one engine, two skins. but the real question is will that engine be any good, and are they going to attempt to compete at all with mozilla and chrome's accelerated release schedules?

i don't care how awesome the browser's UI is, can it properly display the UI of the websites i am trying to view?

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IE 10 is a pretty solid browser. It's fast, it covers huge swaths of CSS3 including animations, hyphenations, transforms, and more, it supports HTML5 very well. In fact, HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript are a fully supported way to write full-blown Windows 8 Metro apps, and MS is showing how serious they are by having written nearly every single example Windows 8 app as an HTML5 app. To be honest, it feels a lot like webOS.

MS is really serious this time around. I think writing IE off at this point would be short-sighted.

But weren't all those available like a year ago in Chrome and Firefox? And Windows 8 with IE10 won't be available until late next year.

You're right of course, Chrome broken the ground and Firefox followed, the constant behind the scenes update model is the way we're going to be expecting all software to work soon.

Unfortunately this doesn't fit well with enterprise customers who are stuck remembering the days of updates breaking all their internal apps and being told by their incompetent IT departments it'll take 3 months to fix.

IE is in a bit of a tricky place for MS.

Which website are you trying to view that does not get rendered as expected on IE10? Which CSS/HTML feature you expected that is lacking?

I see a lot of such unqualified general opinions here on HN that rant against a particular product/technology without any specificity. It will genuinely help to give a speciic and concrete feedback otherwise its just noise.

what' he's referring to, in my experience is the fact that microsoft has been trumpeting IE and HTML5 for some time (particularly on windows 7 phone). And that except for the hd7s and samsung focus, windows 7 phones are stuck with ie 7 mobile, which has no HTML5 support. From what I can tell other windows 7 phones cannot run the 7.5 "mango" release, which actually includes an HTML5 capable IE browser.

All of the WP7 devices will be able to run Mango. Mango hasn't been released yet for existing phones, but speculation is that it will happen on Sept 23rd. Although I don't know what the roll out will look like.

To be honest it's fairly obvious now why they were doing that, to pave the way for Win 8's HTML5 driven UI. But I guess they just had to ship the phone OS before they could get it ready.

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