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What about Safari? Yes it's closed, and right now has a pretty severe bug related to IndexedDB and sandboxing. Webdevs (or is it a concerted effort in disguise?) complain about Safari not being the most aggressive in terms of JS API support, but this is a good thing in terms of privacy isn't it? The deal being that Apple, unlike others, has no stake in "telemetry" aka privacy invasion.

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Safari doesn't even meet the most basic requirement for a web browser: Support for uBlock Origin. If Apple cared about privacy, they would support uBO.

I'm using uBO with FF right now, and have used and enjoyed FF mobile with uBO back when I was using Android, but the issue being discussed here isn't ad blocking but privacy.

Ublock origin is about privacy, not just ads.

Privacy violations on the internet are almost always related to AdTech.

To run Safari, you need to use a closed/"untrustworthy" OS. That automatically disqualifies it from the basic criteria laid out by TFA.

> I will also not be looking at browsers that only work on Microsoft Windows or macOS, even if they are Open Source. Both Microsoft Windows and macOS are highly controversial and completely untrustworthy operating systems.

If you use a Mac, Safari is absolutely the right choice. But for all other platforms, it's simply not available.

(It was briefly available for Windows, in an apparent quirk of history, but was discontinued in 2012.)

Apple has no stake in telemetry that you know of

Oh, really? Past thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959

Good point, I had forgotten about that!

And obviously they collect data and essentially make a pinky promise they are not using it.

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