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> Veganism is about many things in different ratios for different people. I don't think you get to decide why people are vegan and why they aren't

If everyone gets to decide on the meaning of a concept to them personally, then that concept loses meaning. I'm using an almost textbook definition.

> Can you give an example of suffering-free animal consumption?

Sure, harvesting honey which has fallen off a honeycomb beneath a tree.

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> harvesting honey which has fallen off a honeycomb beneath a tree

I never had this opportunity, but I don't see an ethical problem here. As a more realistic example (in my environment), I suggest dumpster diving. I think it would be okay, ethically, but I would not do it because it grosses me out in a way that vegan substitutes don't, and that feeling is not related to the dumpster part.

I may have to do some more introspection, but I honestly don't think, that my acceptance of vegan substitutes is based on a desire to harm animals.

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