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Nice try! I suspect it’s fake until I get further evidence. She’s not wearing her mask and answering the questions too willingly. Plus it’s too conveniently filmed right as she handed over the pamphlet. Just a gut feeling of course.

Your go-to reaction is thinking someone dressed up as an Ontario Police officer - which is illegal to do that - and was recorded on film doing that illegal act?

Let me ask: if this is real, if proven to be real, what would your reaction or thoughts then be? It sounds like you'd find it to be a very serious thing to do, so much so that you think someone was trying to fabricate it?

Edit to add:

I looked up the officer's name, the name she gave when asked. She earns over $100,000 - as do most (if not all) police - and so her salary is public record and on what's called the "Sunshine list" of public salaries above $100,000:

Erika Ingram Position: Law Enforcement Officer / Agente d’exécution de la loi Employer: Ontario Provincial Police Category of Employment: Government of Ontario — Ministries

Salary Benefits Position $131,533.19 paid in 2020 $141.00 Law Enforcement Officer / Agente d’exécution de la loi Ontario Provincial Police $106,863.71 paid in 2019 $130.12 Law Enforcement Officer Ontario Provincial Police

So at minimum there's a registered officer with that name; I don't care to search for photos of the officer via Facebook or other means - but feel free to, or please call the OPP to confirm if this is a real officer, and a real visit, and report back to us here since you're so concerned it's fake.

Also, protesters shouldn't rely on the "I didn't know" excuse for protesting illegally. If this is indeed real it might be the OPP's way of covering their ass when they start arresting everyone. In which case they don't mind being recorded handing out the pamphlets to certain prominent protesters.

We will see what happens. We should all be concerned if it's fake or not. The video is published by someone who publishes a lot of FREEDOM Convoy videos. The convoy says we shouldn't trust the mainstream media. So why should I trust videos that they publish, without scrutiny?

I was watching the spacex stream last night. Shoulder to shoulder crowd where the super majority are not wearing masks. Realistically speaking there's only 7 states in the USA that still have a mask mandate. Many countries around the world are dropping restrictions entirely and returning freedom.

In Canada, many provinces have decided to end mandates. For example, https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/covid-alta-edmonton-...

Here in Ontario you cannot meet with more than 9 friends, masks are mandatory, restaurants and venues are operating at 50% capacity but full vaccination is required. Singing and dancing is illegal.

Ontario has some of the most restrictive rules in the world. Naturally there will be protests demanding we be like virtually everyone else in North America. Worse yet, as of a few weeks ago, the Federal government as part of Border guards made crossing the border require vaccination. Restrictions are going in the absolute wrong direction. Those now unemployed truckers moved on to protest.

The police have frameworks to deal with protests. They know what they can and cannot do and the police have effectively done nothing. They told the media and federal government that if you want the protest to end, bring in the military. They won't be doing it. Which they haven't, we going on weeks now?

What happened just a few hours ago. The Ontario government declared the protestors an 'occupation' which is a legal definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_occupation and therefore justified a 'state of emergency' afterall can't declare emergency over protests. Ontario even went and seized the money raised by givesendgo which came with funny response: https://twitter.com/GiveSendGo/status/1491940399505682434?cx...

This is important. The only way to justify the emergency and removal of human rights is to assert they are a military occupation.

The allegation is obvious as well. This is a USA occupation force. By international law, every trucker arrested now must be treated as prisoners of war.

This is why the Ontario police are going door to door today with pre-printed pamphlets about peaceful protesting.

It's not door-to-door as far as we know, it's to specific people's homes who they saw posting on so social media.

The military responded that they're not touching the protestors.

"If you scare people enough, they will demand removal of freedom. This is the path to tyranny." - Elon Musk, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1486846468887560201

One could argue that a diverse group shutting down cities, interrupting international trade and shutting down the jit auto industry, and advocating overthrow of various levels of government aren’t the typical definition of peaceful. They also seem to act out when presented with masks.

The not-so-unexpected thing is that they’re doing far more damage but being treated far better than all previous protesters. And they use kids as human shields. Stressing the political system as the right wing groups are being revealed as supporters which contradicts their law and order, call out the riot troops past actions.

Is this standard practice where everyone lives, where they preemptively come to your door if you posted to social media in regards to participating in a peaceful protest coming up, or do you see this as intimidation?

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