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The definition of an insurrection is "a violent uprising against an authority or government." Where is the violence? I'm seeing people dancing and enjoying themselves. So much joy. It's like a big festival. People are helping each other and coming together. I see families and food banks being filled, trash cleaned up. Please post videos of all the violence. Btw, you can see an endless feed of the types of events I've described on Youtube. The only violent act I saw was a confirmed antifa member running over civilians.

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Exactly! The media portrayal of the events is so incongruous when you actually watch the videos and see the pictures of the protestors. The headlines do not match what these people are actually doing at all. They are playing hockey in the streets, walking around waving flags with "freedom" on them. Yes they're noisy, but that's what protests are all about right? Making noise to be heard.

Because the majority of media in Canada is funded by the government under the guise of protecting home grown talent and such. It’s heavily subsidized and has all sorts of benefits at taxpayers largesse in order to survive the competition from the US.

Without that regulatory backing, it would be dead under a year.

The CBC is not 'the majority of media'.

Some subset of Canadian media is required to publish some % of Canadian-produced content, but that does not make it funded by the government.

I don't know where this misinformation comes from, but I have some suspicions.

What do you mean? You realize even private media receives massive subsidies in Canada? And that those subsidies are usually promised at election time meaning there is a clear incentive to not cross the party that promises the most money (vs let's say a party that promises to slash support for the media). Even provincial government are starting to provide massive amount of cash to "support our journalism"

Just about every man, woman, child, dog, or organization in the country receives government subsidies for one thing or another.

What percentage of their budget is 'massive', and what conditions do they have to meet to receive them? Is shilling for the whigs one of them? Who determines that they've shilled enough? Do you have a source? One that's not a tabloid op-ed?

I don't think your take on what 'media ran by the government' matches what media in countries where it is actually ran by the government looks like.

I don't believe there has been a level of violence that has been concerning or comparable to other protests. There has been the usual behaviour you see in these protests, including harassment of people wearing masks, healthcare workers, businesses, etc. A small amount of riot-associated behaviour like breaking windows of businesses. It has largely been peaceful.

Overt violence isn't necessary to the definition of insurrection. Here are some other definitions I found:

- "an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government"

- "a usually violent attempt to take control of a government"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insurrection

>an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

Which protest does not meet that criteria?

Most? You can protest against a government while still acknowledging its legitimacy.

Requiring an acknowledgement of a government's legitimacy seems like a bad thing. Ultimately I think "insurrection" is just being thrown around far too freely.

I don't think the truckers are trying to say that the government is illegitimate though? They are saying the mandate laws are illegitimate.

The "usually" violent was added to that dictionary in 2013.

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Insurrection (?), n.: 1. A rising against civil or political authority, or the established government; open and active opposition to the execution of law in a city or state.

“It is found that this city of old time hath made insurrection against kings, and that rebellion and sedition have been made therein.”

Ezra iv. 19.

2. A rising in mass to oppose an enemy. [Obs.]

Syn. -- Insurrection, Sedition, Revolt, Rebellion, Mutiny. Sedition is the raising of commotion in a state, as by conspiracy, without aiming at open violence against the laws. Insurrection is a rising of individuals to prevent the execution of law by force of arms. Revolt is a casting off the authority of a government, with a view to put it down by force, or to substitute one ruler for another. Rebellion is an extended insurrection and revolt. Mutiny is an insurrection on a small scale, as a mutiny of a regiment, or of a ship's crew.

https://www.websters1913.com/words/Insurrection

1. merriam-webster isn't a good source because they have a history of redefining words for activism purposes, eg. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52993306

2. if violence isn't necessary for an "insurrection", and "revolting against civil authority or an established government" suffices, does that mean rosa parks or MLK are insurrectionists?

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