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As I say. I don't know who is counted. In any case, I certainly imagine grocery chains that bake on-premise have "bakers" and there are more of them in that type of job than working in high-end artisan bakeries.

Just wanted to say I've enjoyed this HN rabbithole gold, where we've gone from talking about increasing house costs to discussing the role of bakers in modern day industrial bakeries :)

No, those people are the specialists that come in and set things up, or design and build the machinery that gets set up.

The day-to-day work is done by bakers, and much of it is not automated.

It's a factory job though, their employer 'competes' for them with the other nearby factories, not the nearby independent bakeries.