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Fuck their employees - Seems a little aggressive doesn't it? I personally know employees at Patreon and kind of take offense to this.

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In context:

>fuck their employees for not blocking offices and protesting this decision

I think the idea is that silence is tantamount to agreement.

I understand the context and I left it out for a reason. It's an overly emotional and inflammatory take.

Fuck the company is fine.

Fuck the CEO is fine.

But fuck the employees who appear to be complicit is too much?

I genuinely don't see the difference. I'm not trying to be difficult, but it does absolutely make sense to me.

> fuck their employees for not blocking offices and protesting this decision

You removed almost the whole sentence.

I didn't need to include that to prove my point. When faced with the same decision, I'm willing to bet that most people would make the same decisions. You have no idea about the employee's financial situations or their political stances. Saying fuck them for not doing something is irrational and ignoring all context. I get the sentiment but the language is inflammatory.

oh apologies if i don't give a fuck about their financial situation WHEN PEOPLE LITERALLY ARE BEING MURDERED BY A FASCIST REGIME. fuck you.

Glad we could have some sane discourse, thanks.

want some sanity back? quit supporting fascist regime. all employees are complicit if they continue working while knowing decisions of their leadership.

Me knowing good people at Patreon and vouching for them = supporting Putin and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Wow, apparently I've been the bad guy the whole time.

Yes, you are and no, they aren’t good people. They are complicit in fascism of Russia. Please pass it on to them - they are sincerely hated and should be ashamed. Unless of course they’ve been protesting and striking.

I'm sure you can understand that when people see their country being invaded by a fascist lunatic it isn't the best time to try to do tone policing. Yes people are hyperbolic, emotional, and irrational. They have perfectly good reasons for this. No, nobody cares in the current situation about the feelings of Patreon employees or their financial situation. Blocking Patreon from removing one of the main source of help for Ukrainian people fighting back against the invader is the correct moral choice here. If they do not take actions, yes, of course we can judge them. And of course they have their reasons.

Fuck Patreon and anyone who contributed to Come Back Alive being removed after 8 years with no issue.

You're falling into the same trap. You can care about Ukraine and about the well being of Pateron employees. These are not mutually exclusive. I understand the context surrounding this line of conversation but I'm not going to endorse or support someone saying "fuck your friends at Patreon" for something they probably have absolutely no control over.

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