End-of-life dates

Same for me, using Firefox on Android. The navigation is not visible. Quick workaround: Enable desktop mode in your browser.

At least in Firefox (Android) if you tap in the top right corner (there is nothing visible there, but just tap in the very corner) a list of projects appears.

Thought the same. Chrome mobile rendering doesn't have a menu to browse by. Hopefully they will fix it soon.

Here are some examples:

- https://endoflife.date/go

- https://endoflife.date/php

- https://endoflife.date/nodejs

This is a bug, we’re working on fixing it: https://github.com/endoflife-date/endoflife.date/issues/886

I thought it was dates in which people prophesized end of the world, including dates of actual end of world (e.g. heat death of universe)

EOLdates may have been a more easily interpreted name to tech people.

Me too, mostly because it's literally one of the projects on my project idea list. I wouldn't call that morbid though; I think it'd be beautiful to support terminally ill people finding love with less worry about leaving the other party behind.

I expected this to be a form where I could put in some personal data and it would calculate the date of my death. I'm slightly disappointed.

I occasionally see some hospice queries leading to the website in search console. I hadn’t considered the other meanings till I noticed these in the reports.

Same on iPhone/safari.

Workaround (FF/Android): Switch to Desktop mode.

That's easy. Just write software that doesn't do anything.

A single brick is more like a line of code than an application or library.

Applications are more like buildings which need to be maintained. Perhaps you could consider it a multi-use building with many tenants and sometimes under attack.

Do you really want to? Your house probably didn't have electric lights when it was made. Your house probably didn't have telephone, much less cable TV wires, or ethernet. Note that wired telephone is a technology that came and went during the life of your house, today you may not care, but 50 years ago that would have been an issue. I'm not sure if your house would have had plumbing or not, even if it did the bathroom (singular - today most families want several) and kitchen were at best outdated. I have no doubt that your house has poor insulation. I suspect that your house has had several major renovations over the years, and the basic facts of the original structure limit what you can do and so it is still dated (though maybe in an endearing way)

I'm starting to think the Japanese have the right idea: build the house to last 20 years and rebuild often. Some parts of modern house design are fads that I hope to see die, but there are a lot of parts about modern houses that make them much better than old ones.

Everything has a lifetime. Individual bricks just have a pretty long one. Your building overall probably has a much, much shorter lifetime than you think, and likely has received updates and substantial maintenance over the decades, if anything at least to keep it up to code.

Maintenance is one way of extending the lifetime of things. Otherwise, your building would regularly be torn down and rebuilt. This is often the case, when maintenance is no longer enough. That's the best case scenario, too, as the worst case is it collapses of its own volition, potentially with you in it.

Everything has a lifetime: https://tildes.net/~talk/109v/thoughts_on_lifetimes_limits_a...

While not 120 years old, we have code in production that was written 30 years ago and runs just fine.

It will be replaced this year however, not because there's anything wrong with it besides code quality, but because it generates files for a system that'll be changed to something entirely different this year.

If the ground around your house physically changed completely every 5 years, then maybe you'd switch out bricks more often as well...

> Can we make software that's a little more like my bricks?

Excellent. This is a great analogy!

- Did the weather in your area change? Maybe you live in Texas and experienced an abnormally huge freeze in 2020 which cause most people to have to replace plumbing and water heaters?

- Maybe you are experiencing more hurricanes than normal and so flooding has become more likely. Now you need to put your house up on stilts?

- What about that new Tesla you might have bought that needs a 240v charger? Can you do this without ripping open the wall?

Software entropy is not just because the software changes, but because the environment changes.

The bricks may be fine another couple of centuries or more. Brick walls eventually become piles of bricks if they are not maintained, though. How many times do you figure someone has done tuck pointing on the mortar in 12 decades?

Perhaps if you follow Unix philosophy, you can write such software.

A little more related in my opinion is enterprise hardware. I recently started a new career managing software and hardware acquisitions, including their maintenance, for a very large organization. When OEM support and maintenance is required by policy, the EOL renders that associated hardware useless unless you're willing to maintain 3rd party maintenance. Which, from my understanding, even patches for vulns such as the recent log4 vuln would not be covered. One could argue that this limitation is created by such organizational policies, I guess, but it makes the whole industry look more like a leasing structure with purchase prices to me.

We have a PR open for this, so it should be coming soon. Along with RSS feeds.

With the caveat that ESU (Extended security Updates) cost companies increasing $$$ for every year after extended support ended.

there's a unicorn idea right there

Interesting that you read it as "end of life-dates". I read it as "end-of-life dates" and thinking it was about very old people or terminally ill people dating each other and supporting themselves up through the end.

I thought it was dating for people who were terminally ill...

Hyphenated above. Thanks!