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How about allowing sovereign countries to remain democratic? How about opposing blatantly illegal, unprovoked military aggression against a sovereign country as forcefully as possible?

Frankly, the people calling for Ukraine to just accept what's happening - those who aren't just Russian trolls anyway - are absolutely disgusting.

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>How about allowing sovereign countries to remain democratic?

Are you the aware that the west funded a revolution to overthrow Ukraine's democratically elected leader in 2014 and install a more west-friendly replacement?

That is not what happened. Ukraine elected a leader (with the help of Paul Manafort, who Putin paid for his efforts) that lied about his intentions to join the EU. In fact when he was in power he did an about face on his stated goals and stopped the process of getting into the EU. When he was deposed he fled to Russia - the country that put him in power in the first place.

Basically, Putin subverted Ukrainian democracy by helping to get a puppet elected. Ukrainians did not like that.

This is just what you have been told.

Google nuland tapes

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

There seems to be a continuous supply of people joining in to discuss this subject here on HN who haven't done any research whatsoever.

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