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>And here’s CGTN’s article on “biolabs” in Ukraine, citing Russia media outlets and official

There are biolabs in the Ukraine, as confirmed by Nuland in the Senate hearings. Whether they have bio-weapons or medical research, who knows, but you can perhaps understand that the Russians might be concerned?

What's really amazing about this story that only days ago it was painted as a Q-anon theory. Turns out it was real. We are neck deep in propaganda from all directions, but most people think it's only coming from the Russian side.

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There's a reason "dual purpose" exists as a term. Most American grade schools have "hacking devices", should we define that to be any computer.

And at this point, the Russians have demostrated a clear willingness to lie about anything in pursuit of their geopolitical agenda (see: months of explicit denial of preparing for a Ukrainian invasion, by all levels of their government, in official statements).

>And at this point, the Russians have demostrated a clear willingness to lie about anything in pursuit of their geopolitical agenda

US history says the DOD, Pentagon, & the CIA are just as willing, if not more.

Actually, pointing out the hypocrisy is invalid because that means you stand with Putin because Twitter said so. Derp.

Russians lie, but history tells us that so does everyone else:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPe5f5dcrGE (Why Leaders Lie?)

The US lied* in 2003 to invade Iraq.

Iraq was an autocracy that had previously invaded its neighbors multiple times and used chemical weapons against its own ethnic minorities.

Ukraine is a democracy, and has no recent history of aggression.

*At worst case. At best, they didn't verify too closely intelligence that said what they wanted it to say.

Russia is concerned that the US stepped in to make sure the post soviet labs didn't fall into the hands of terrorist or that ukraine continued weapons research?

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/05-829-Ukra...

quite ironic

Yes, but during that same hearing when Victoria Nuland was asked about biological weapons facilities, she explicitly confirmed to Sen. Rubio that she is 100% confident that _if there is to be a biological weapon or incident inside the Ukraine, it will definitely be the Russians who are behind it_.

[0] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1501313109520175104

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