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>If Russia says ... that bombing hospitals is necessary to protect itself from Ukraine - that's of course disinformation.

Actually this story is really "wag the dog" style https://waronfakes.com/civil/fake-russian-aviation-struck-a-...

Every story you read now is propaganda. West is just better and more experienced in this stuff than Russia.

>I'm interested in Russia losing in humiliating fashion, getting isolated, having its economy chopped down by 75%, and in the coming decades seeing the nation split into three or four countries and overall massively weakened

This scenario includes about 150 millions of people dead/suffering and world economy wrecked. How is this "moral"?

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>Every story you read now is propaganda. West is just better and more experienced in this stuff than Russia

You have such a good eye for propaganda! Congrats. Thanks for the education I will make waronfakes.com my homepage. From flipping link to link it looks perfectly fine, covers everything from all parties: Ukraine lying, NATO lying, lies about Russia lying, lies about DNR/LNR. Perfectly balanced

To be fair, they do not claim to cover both sides:

> We are the owners and administrators of several Russian non-political telegram channels.

> We don't do politics. But we consider it important to provide unbiased information about what is happening in Ukraine and on the territories of Donbass, because we see signs of an information war launched against Russia.

Granted, I would have liked to see a "FAKE: US funding biological weapon labs in Ukraine" there too.

How is it fake?

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/11/1566-m11.html

I am wondering about how your initial response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine was so ambiguous: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=vogre&next=30589151

And then all of your subsequent comments seem to be extremely consistent with Russian government talking points.

You were initially kind of concerned that the invasion was not justified, but now you believe the Russian government positions whole-heartedly?

It is a very interesting transition of opinion in a short amount of time! What's up?

My guess is that it is a result of russophobia. Kind of Newton's third law of motion, but for opinions.

Given how hard it is to find out what kind of research happened in Wuhan, despite it was possible to inspect it for as long as needed, I find it hard to believe that one can that quickly and single handedly (esp in the current context) be certain that some biological weapons were actually developed in that lab.

I've also witnessed a lot of biased "journalism" in India to push that unreasonable narrative.

That's more likely propaganda doubled as a humorous reminder of the WMD in 2003, in my opinion.

It sure seems like that "war on fakes" site is full on non-debunkings of things.

This article for example is just re-printing Russian government talking points:

https://waronfakes.com/civil/fake-russian-soldiers-wont-let-...

Which is fine, the authors can believe the Russian government if you want, but declaring the statements of the other side "fake" on only that basis isn't very credible.

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