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The real mistake is that the founder of Pinboard does run a wrong business. I'm saying this as a Delicious user who uses it for 6 years and lost some bookmarks during the recent retooling. It's bad for running a bookmark website for several years and keeping emphasizing that "we're unsocial and will not be."

maciej, I hope you'll read this; bookmarking has a bright future because it's social and has the enough potential to replace all search engines.

an unsocial bookmarking service is a real example of waste. to me, people who buys your unsocial archiving bookmarking service are not able to type 6 lines of bash scripts to keep their bookmarks in a plain text file. this is what I will do when avos kills delicious. I'll not pay for just archiving website who thinks I'm an idiot enough to buy a poor clone of delicious of 2005.

How can you be proud of selling a clone of an old version of a popular website? Come on!

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I pay for Pinboard. Am I an idiot? I didn't think I was, but I suppose the jury is always out.

Maciej makes a living off Pinboard. Silly Maciej! He could be betting his company on a 100-1 shot of making $4MM if he'd just get off his ass and talk to the VCs! Don't worry, silly Maciej. When you inevitably fail, because 100-1 is bad odds, there's a comfortable job at any of 50 other startups waiting for you in the valley.

You pay for the delicious of 2005. No more comment.

You think I'd be better off paying for the Delicious of 2011?

it's your choice. I'd pick the honest one.

Newer is not always better.

diamondhead, while I disagree with your tone I do agree with your premise. That is, with social bookmarking you create an army of curators and this data can certainly rival search engines (for any topic that has achieved critical mass).

One feature I would love to see with pinboard (or delicious) is recommended 'bookmark buddies'. That is, someone whose bookmark tastes overlap with mine (weighted by how rare the bookmark is) [1]. Recommending specific web articles is hard, but I find that following the full bookmark feed of 2 or 3 carefully selected individuals can often be more relevant than generic recommendation services (e.g. Stumble).

[1] This would have been possible on the old delicious site but delicious had severe throttling in place to prevent crawling this data. Now it appears avos has removed the list of 'co-bookmarkers' entirely from the website.

I would disagree with my tone, too. Sorry for that. But I really can't understand that how possible is it to clone an early version of delicious, try selling it to the people who abandon their delicious account and criticizing the delicious? This is what bullshit means.

I suspect one of the main features of an avowed unsocial site is that you can be certain you're not going to accidentally fatfinger/misclick and share something you really didn't want to with (some of) your social network.

The consequences of such actions are ever increasing as more people connect with more and more people, widening the visibility of any gaffe, and making recovery more difficult.

Those people with genuinely serious "something to hide" probably wouldn't be using a cloud-store anyway, especially not one that archives the content as well, but miscommunications happen all the time.

Try explaining to your grandmother that you were actually reading up on some bizarre sexual fetishes as part of an anthropology paper.

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