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> The act of using Linux outside of the server context for a personal machine is hobbyist.

I don't know how you arrive at that, unless you're trolling or haven't gone that deep on Linux. Linux is a far better development environment for many languages and ecosystems than Windows, and Mac (granted of course that you'll have a much better time on Windows with .NET, etc). I've been forced to use both now and again in various jobs over the years and have always gone back to Linux.

Mac is better for non-programming office software, and Windows has better games support.

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I've never met a person that thinks Numbers is better than Excel. Word, too. Keynote is popular, of course, for Mac OS X.

I made a poor definition of "personal machine". It did not include development. Developing software at home and for fun is, of course, a relatively niche hobby; but, I will grant you that Linux is a very, very good development environment.

Mac OS X is pretty great for photographers and cinematographers, etc.

At least as of 2020 (https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share...), Windows had 87% market share, Mac OS had about 10.7, and Linux had 1.7. IT looks like it was based around UserAgent checking? Which means it would include software developer's worker machines when they log into random websites, as well.

You're using the words "better experience", etc; but, perhaps the problem here is that we're not using the same definition of "hobbyist". Product quality had nothing to do with hobbyist in my definition. It was more "support expectations".

Excel ships on mac too, you know.

> Developing software at home and for fun is, of course, a relatively niche hobby

My multiple decade tech career is not exactly a hobby. Developing software, perhaps relatively niche among white collar workers.

> perhaps the problem here is that we're not using the same definition of "hobbyist"

I don't know what you're trying to prove, but smaller market share does not equate to hobby status. That's like saying that driving a Volvo is a hobby. Anyway, it's been a discussion but not particularly profitable, so have fun in another thread :)

Excel for macOS is filled with awful bugs and limitations. I'm sorry I don't have a list at the top of my mind. The same goes for Word and PowerPoint.

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