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> decides if it's important enough to release as a 15.4.1 (which they probably won't, which means I'm stuck finding a workaround) - or if it comes out in iOS 16, then a good chunk of our users will never get the fix

I know people like to complain about Safari, but:

1. It’s absolutely common to ask developers for a minimal repro case in a bug report.

2. There are four major Safari releases under 15.x.

3. Apple OS upgrades, especially iOS, are as close to total as one could imagine. The overlap between people who buy iPhones and people who go out of their way to turn off OS upgrades is really small.

I want Apple to stop tying (some) Safari releases to OS upgrades, but this honestly feels like you’re tired and it’s been a long day, and you could use a break. Take the night off. Safari will still be imperfect but improving tomorrow, even if it’s not at the pace we’d prefer.

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1. I absolutely agree, and will be making one to get this bug fixed. 2. All of which have different bugs :^) 3. My product's usage data disagrees. We've got plenty of users on old iOS versions - a really big chunk on iOS 14, for example.

I want Apple to stop restricting third-party browsers on iOS. MacOS Safari has the same WebGL bugs, but our game's Desktop client uses a WebView under our control & versioning that isn't Safari, and so doesn't have the bug.

If iOS had the same capabilities, I wouldn't care at all if Safari introduced bugs, since it wouldn't break our product.

This isn't the first, or second, or third time that Apple has shipped broken stuff in Safari on iOS which broke our product. I've been dealing with this for years, and it's not getting any better. I'm absolutely frustrated about this, but when I spend time honing in patches for Safari regressions & Safari just ships more regressions, it's hard not to be frustrated.

Yep I get that it’s frustrating. I realize in hindsight my comment about being tired might have come off dismissive, but I mean sincerely that I recognize this is an exhausting thing to deal with, and I hope you get the rest and whatever care you need to keep going. Take care.

"you're holding it wrong" said as "you're too tired". OP's tiredness has nothing at all to do with Apple's abusive policy of forcing Safari on IOS. That's the whole entire problem, not OP not getting enough sleep.

My comment did have some clarifying points, but my observation that they may be tired wasn’t a dismissal or rejection of anything, it was just empathy. I’ve come back to respond to this several times and walked away confused each time, because I sincerely recognized that dealing with broken technology takes a toll, and I was surprised by this being interpreted as less sincere. But I did re-read my comment and I see how that could be misread along with those clarifying points.

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