The same situation happens with non-compensated infidelity. Does it follow that Tinder victimizes people because people use it to cheat on their partners, some of which consequently transmit diseases?
edit - the intense support for prostitution on HN (mostly computer programmers) will never cease to make me smile.
Essentially, there's no case in which cheating is not "wrong." There's many where prostitution isn't.
Great. Let's legalize selling yourself into slavery while we're at it.
> Morality is not universal, so yours has no more value than anyone else's.
Morality is universal, it's not mine though.
This is a non-sequitur. A slave, does not have autonomy. Nothing in the parent comment supports slavery. You're trying to draw a false equivalence between consensual sex work and slavery.
> [it's] support for any person to have autonomy of their body in whichever way they see fit, including making a living by selling access to it to other people
There's simply no way you can claim that doesn't include selling yourself into slavery. Not a false equivalence and an extremely common practice around most of the world until recently. Usually you were paid after your term of slavery terminated.
I understand why you're shocked. You just realized that you support slavery. The good thing is that you can change your mind and come around to not supporting the exchange of human bodies for money.
I think you're arguing in very bad faith here. I do not condone slavery, but yes, I condone the right of people to sell themselves into slavery. I'm not sure why you would perceive these two things as not* different, but nuance is very important when thinking about stuff. Let me ask again: are you sure you're not being blinded by your biases?
edit: actually making sense this time.
You just admitted that you support legalizing slavery! Okay, fair enough, you're not encouraging people to become slaves. And it would involve voluntary sale of oneself into slavery. But I was fairly close to the mark.
Also, questions have to be asked: if a man is poor, is he really voluntarily selling himself into slavery?
> Let me ask again: are you sure you're not being blinded by your biases?
Perhaps it is "bias" that is keeping me from supporting the legalization of slavery. Or perhaps it's something else. I'm going with something else.
Well:
> You just admitted that you support legalizing slavery
I have also admitted that I support abortion, assisted suicide, sex work and probably some other unsavory things that you can think of. I'm not sure why when I say "full autonomy over their bodies" you fixated on just the one.
For the second time, slavery by definition means depriving someone of autonomy. This directly contradicts what the comment supports. The comment directly opposes slavery, because it deprives people of autonomy.
This kind of false equivalence between consensual sex and slavery is going to take this conversation nowhere.
Read the rest of the thread. That commenter already admitted they support legalizing slavery.
Supporting absolute autonomy clearly means supporting selling yourself into slavery. How could it not? Part of autonomy is choosing when and for what duration to surrender it.
Who's is it then: Jesus, Budda, Kali, Jahveh, Mohamed, Musk, Thor, Ganesh, Gates, Bernie?
I don't mean to be an asshole, but even if you are religious (which I take you are) you can't fault people that find moral relativism a worthy concept when there are so many points of view between different religions. And I understand that "faith" strips relativism from your own belief, but you beeing someone that posts on HN, you probably understand that not everyone can say the same thing and it's a little rude to not even acknowledge that.
I don't know. We should keep asking though.
I would say that your comment:
> Morality is not universal, so yours has no more value than anyone else's.
is much "ruder" than mine:
> Morality is universal, it's not mine though.